| byorgey | mauke: ping |
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| byorgey | @ask mauke do you have any intention/ability to fix http://code.google.com/p/xmonad/issues/detail?id=135 (NoBorders)? |
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| lambdabot | Consider it noted. |
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| jkramer | Hello |
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| jkramer | I'm trying to configure my own pretty printer for dzen |
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| jkramer | Somehow the whole content of the bar is centered, but I'd prefer having it left-aligned |
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| dschoepe | jkramer: pass -ta l to dzen on startup |
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| jkramer | Ahh |
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| jkramer | Ok, thanks, I thought I have to do it with the pretty-printer |
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| jkramer | When I add loggers from XMonad.Util.Logger to ppExtras, do I have to do anything else to make them appear? |
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| jkramer | I added battery and aumixVolume, but can't see them in my dzen bar |
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| dschoepe | jkramer: those work rather flaky though, since xmonad is not properly multithreaded |
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| ivanm | better off running a second dzen bar that does that |
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| dschoepe | so instead I'd use some other app to generate the info, for example conky |
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| jkramer | Hmm, ok |
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| jkramer | Can I push the data from another app into the same dzen or do I really have to have two? |
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| dschoepe | you can use a dzen multiplexer |
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| dschoepe | !google dzen multiplexer |
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| dschoepe | @google dzen multiplexer |
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| jkramer | Nice, thanks |
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| dschoepe | anyway, it should be the first result |
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| lambdabot | No Result Found. |
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| jkramer | Found it :) |
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| ivanm | dschoepe: I thought people discouraged using the multiplexer... |
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| dschoepe | I don't know, I just know that it exists, and that it's a way around using two dzens |
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| teckan | hello everyone. i am seeking a way of monitoring the latency of my internet connection. i have got the IP of a suitable (near) server to do it but i can't get to know how to use grep (or something) similar to get just the number of milliseconds in the ping output. can you please give me a hand? (i am going to integrate it in xmobar) |
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| ivanm | byorgey: doing your bit to clean out old xmonad bugs? |
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| byorgey | ivanm: yep, for some reason I just thought "today I am going to look at all the old bugs in the bugtracker" |
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| ivanm | heh |
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| byorgey | dunno why, but I doubt anyone will complain =) |
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| ivanm | byorgey: do you have a link anywhere to the work you've been doing on combinatorial testing so I can link to it in my blog post? |
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| byorgey | ivanm: well, I have some slides I could send you if you wanted to look at them, but I'd rather you didn't post them on your blog |
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| byorgey | this is all still very much "work in progress" so I don't have anything I'm really ready to share with the entire Internet =) |
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| byorgey | ivanm: what are you writing about in your blog post? |
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| ivanm | the fun I've been having with QuickCheck ;-) |
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| ivanm | OK, I'll just link to the announcement of the talk you're going to be doing |
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| byorgey | ah, right, now I remember talking to you about this earlier |
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| ivanm | heh |
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| ivanm | byorgey: http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/if-wishes-were-tests-code-would-be-perfect/ |
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| byorgey | ivanm: cool, nice post |
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| byorgey | ivanm: re: generating bigger and bigger lists, we need a mechanism for overriding the way that QC increses the size of things internally |
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| byorgey | I think right now it just does something like map sized [0,2..] which is sort of... well... Arbitrary =) |
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| ivanm | yeah |
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| ivanm | byorgey: there's a maxsize param; I don't know how it actually uses it though :s |
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| byorgey | hmm, yeah |
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| byorgey | I don't either |
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| ivanm | I don't know how _most_ of QC works ;-) |
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| ivanm | as I said in the post, took me a while to figure out what GaveUp meant! :s |
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| byorgey | yeah, QC is awesome but also sort of magical and finicky |
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| ivanm | awesomely magical! |
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| ivanm | ;-) |
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| ivanm | anyway, I just had my 90 minute test suite finally finish once without any problems found |
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| ivanm | so of course I'm running it again! |
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| byorgey | hmm, even aside from recursive structures, perhaps my research can address finding a more elegant and flexible model for deciding how to generate test cases of various "sizes" |
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| Action: ivanm will be doing a new post in the next few days about how much a PITA Graphviz and its docs are... |
| byorgey | ivanm: heh, excellent =) |
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| ivanm | byorgey: did you choose your upenn email based upon your nick, or the other way round? :p |
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| byorgey | ivanm: heh, neither |
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| byorgey | I have been using byorgey as my username/nick since high school |
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| ivanm | coincidence? yeah, right... ;-) |
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| byorgey | =) |
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| Action: sjanssen watches byorgey clean up the bug tracker |
| byorgey | sjanssen: I accept beer ;) |
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| byorgey | we ought to add some "Difficulty" tags to the bug tracker |
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| ivanm | byorgey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE7Fe1cGLPk |
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| byorgey | ivanm: hehe |
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| shepheb | I drink therefore I am! |
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| shepheb | I like the idea of difficulty tags, if we want to encourage new(er) contributors to tackle some easier bugs as a way into xmonad development. |
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| shepheb | (and I'm not even drunk, though I am on my 39th hour of consciousness) |
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| byorgey | yes, exactly. In my sweep of open tickets I've come across a few that would be easy for a relative newbie to tackle. |
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| byorgey | especially ones that used to be hard but are now easy with extensible state. |
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| byorgey | so it would be nice to be able to tag such tickets |
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| ivanm | byorgey: I was aiming more at the "American beer is like making love in a canoe" bit... |
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| ivanm | ;-) |
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| byorgey | @ask aavogt so, did http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/xmonad/2009-November/009148.html actually resolve issue #316? if so, could you close it (or add a comment explaining why it's still not resolved)? |
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| lambdabot | Consider it noted. |
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| bimbo | hello, yesterday I asked for help about a problem with some latency on xmobar, and ivanm pointed out this *might* be due to a bug in xmobar's xft support, however I'm not so sure about this |
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| bimbo | after some research (not exhaustive though) I found out that most of the problems related to this bug talk about high cpu load, here cpu load is fine, this also doesn't seem to be a memory leak problem |
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| bimbo | it happens mostly when having quite a few windows open (several firefox windows, thunderbird and netbeans, each in their own workspaces) |
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| bimbo | so the question is, what else can I do to debug this problem? as I said before this happens as time goes by (xmobar takes about a second to refresh the focused window title) |
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| bimbo | right now, with those previosly mentioned windows opened (and some xterms too), iterating through the workspaces (using Ctrl-Tab, CycleWS) it takes quite a while and leaves xmonad in an inconsistent state |
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| bimbo | e.g. showing the tabs from one workspace on another (only the tabs, not the windows), I have to reload xmonad for they to disappear |
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| Atropo | Hi |
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| Atropo | Is there a way to save the session in xmonad? |
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| Atropo | I mean, open applications, tiling layout, workspaces etc... |
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| esbena | when I use "sendMessage (ToggleStruts))", my xmobar is _on top of_ my windows, which now extend to the area with xmobar in. Is that correct behavior? |
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| sereven | esbena: 0.9 or earlier xmobar version? Newer ones use lowerOnStart = True in xmobarrc. Older xmobar versions you must start xmobar earlier than all the other windows to have them on top I think. (i.e. made to be started with X instead of from in xmonad.hs) |
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| esbena | sereven: thx, just found the post in the mailing list saying darcs xmobar has it fixed - and yes I'm using 0.9.. |
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| Action: shepheb practices his Spanish reading his RSS feed of a Twitter search for "xmonad". |
| shepheb | French, Spanish (Portugese?), Russian and at least two east Asian languages are common. I wonder what the Japanese and Russian Tweeters think. |
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| dschoepe | We could try what google translate makes of it, but it might not be _that_ precise :) |
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| shepheb | hopefully it would get positive vs. negative down |
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| dschoepe | hmm, "Well, not xmonad same place" |
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| shepheb | or at the very least generate some amusing "You have no chance to survive make your time" mistranslations. |
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| dschoepe | Okay, found one that's definitely positive :) |
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| jonathan1 | any suggestions on the best program to setroot a background image? something that can easily tile, scale, scale+crop would be nice. |
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| ml| | feh |
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| Entroacceptor | hsetroot, display, qiv, |
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| jonathan1 | thanks |
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| nce | ffs |
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| nce | sry w/c |
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| jonathan1 | ok, how do most people get programs to automatically start up when they log in? should I just use .xsession even though my login manager is already starting xmonad? |
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| bo0ts__ | Hi, how can I change the rotation direction in mirror tall mode? It is counterclockwise while it is clockwise in Tall mode. *confusing* |
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| bo0ts__ | Couldn't find anything in the wiki or the conf examples :( |
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| bo0ts__ | By rotation direction I mean the way Mod+Tab selects the next window. |
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| And1 | Is there a rss-feed for xmonad's reddit? |
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| hgabreu | And1: yes, it's right there. I mean, firefox detected it automatically |
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| hgabreu | http://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/.rss |
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| And1 | Ah thanks. :) |
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| hgabreu | byorgey decided to squash all xmonad issues :) that's cool |
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| sereven | bo0ts__: from XMonad.Layout.Reflect change one you don't like as is to: reflectVert (Tall ....) or reflectHoriz ( Mirror (Tall ...)) |
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| diomekes | why does this config: http://haskell.pastebin.com/d5cc90894 create this tiled layout: http://www.imagebam.com/image/ec090d57600823 |
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| newfish | hello, is there any mp3 player working very well with xmonad? i mean, you can do play pause stop with some shortcuts? |
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| sereven | diomekes: you have ratio and delta reversed in your tiled = definition |
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| diomekes | ok, duh, thanks |
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| diomekes | does it matter the order of the definitions after "where"? |
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| hgabreu | no |
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| sereven | diomekes: nope, just after Tall |
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| diomekes | k |
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| byorgey | there! |
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| Action: byorgey just finished looking at every single open ticket in the bug tracker |
| diomekes | once a default layout for a workspace is set, is it possible to change that workspace's layout |
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| diomekes | ? |
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| byorgey | diomekes: yes, if you set the layout to something like layout1 ||| layout2 ||| layout3 ... |
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| byorgey | you can toggle through those layouts with mod-space |
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| diomekes | k |
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| diomekes | are new windows always moved to master pane? |
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| hgabreu | diomekes: no exactly |
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| hgabreu | new windows, by default, replace the position of the current focused one |
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| hgabreu | but you can change that |
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| sereven | newfish: mpc is popular one http://dpaste.com/125528 -- some example configs. Pkg xmonad-extras has some neat mpd stuff. |
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| newfish | sereven, thanks a lot :) |
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| diomekes | is this the best: XMonad.Hooks.InsertPosition ? |
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| sereven | hurrah byorgey++ Thanks for bug pass :) |
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| jonathan2 | Ok, what would be wrong with the line "myManageHook = composeOne [ isFullscreen -?> doFullFloat ]"? under my imports? I'm getting errors: xmonad.hs:9:28: Not in scope: `isFullscreen' and xmonad.hs:9:45: Not in scope: `doFullFloat' |
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| sereven | jonathan2: maybe missing `import XMonad.Hooks.ManageHelpers' |
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| jonathan2 | got it |
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| jonathan2 | here, I'll pastebin the file |
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| jonathan2 | http://dpaste.com/125533/ |
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| jonathan2 | uh-oh, is my version too old? I'm on xmonad .7 |
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| dschoepe | yes, that's quite old. |
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| jonathan2 | I just noticed that the debian backports package is that version |
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| rolando | is it possible to have borderWidth with a value of 1 only when there is more than one window on the workspace? |
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| rolando | disclamer: my haskell skills aren't that good... yet |
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| dschoepe | rolando: Perhaps SmartBorders is an option for you, which hides the border entirely when only one window is visible |
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| rolando | thank you, i'll search it |
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| rolando | well that took care of that |
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| rolando | thank you dschoepe |
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| Bruners | im having problems viewing flash videos (youtube etc) in fullscreen, config here http://pastebin.ca/1688569 |
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| Bruners | it goes to fullscreen but then goes back to normal right away |
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| sereven | Bruners: import XMonad.Hooks.ManageHelpers and add to your manageHooks lists list: , [ isFullscreen --> doFullFloat ] |
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| Bruners | sereven: that worked almost, got it running fullscreen at least. but the video is not getting stretched |
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| sereven | Bruners: yeah afaik that's player dependent, different site's players offer different options. sometimes can choose from e.g. a right mouse button menu |
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| --- Fri Nov 27 2009 |
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