| oiaohm | Yep richardcavell |
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| richardcavell | oiaohm: I just ran it under Wine and it crashed my system |
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| richardcavell | X) |
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| oiaohm | Ok that is not ment to be possible. |
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| oiaohm | Unless you have suspect drivers. |
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| richardcavell | well comctl32.exe just spat the dummy |
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| oiaohm | Wine really does not have the power to crash systems without help. |
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| richardcavell | And I had to close X11 |
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| richardcavell | Wine crashes my puter about every 5 hours or so |
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| richardcavell | Though again it may be Apple's fault rather than Wine's |
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| oiaohm | I would say stuffed X11 stack not wine on the crash. |
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| oiaohm | wine test spitting the dummy and leaving screen in a mess does happen. |
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| oiaohm | Ie something don't render right opps. |
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| richardcavell | well, I'm a novice coder, but the way I see it, instead of blaming Apple for dodgy X11 implementation, the solution is to find workarounds, right? |
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| richardcavell | Try and make it work |
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| oiaohm | There is a option to work with the developers of the future driver for OS X in wine doing testing and the like for them. richardcavell |
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| oiaohm | And along the way learning to code. |
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| richardcavell | oiaohm: Well, I'd be happy to help |
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| richardcavell | especially if it's as simple as just running programs on my machine |
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| Gimpexe | masterslakk did u manage to get warcraft 3 working? |
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| oiaohm | http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/QuartzDriver Basically should speak to them. richardcavell. They also have a bit of object c to C translation todo. That is not write from coding. |
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| richardcavell | oiaohm: okay |
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| richardcavell | oiaohm: I need to find a project where my non-leet coding skillz would be of some use |
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| oiaohm | There are quite a few areas. |
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| oiaohm | Going threw the bug list hunting duplicates is something that does not need major coding skilling. richardcavell |
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| oiaohm | Being a appdb maintainer caring for an applications status inforamtion is another. |
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| richardcavell | oiaohm: well I'll keep my C coding skillz sharpened and maybe one day I'll be able to contribute. |
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| oiaohm | we have huge list of never ending jobs. richardcavell All classes of people are required. |
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| oiaohm | The hardest of all to find is documentation writers. |
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| oiaohm | That is a rare breed in the open source world. |
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| Gimpexe | its hard to know what to write in the documentation |
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| oiaohm | That is part of the problem. documentation writing is a very specialised skill. Even more than coding. |
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| Gimpexe | u seem pretty active on this channel oiaohm, how long have u been working on the wine project? |
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| oiaohm | Not exacty working on. I help people through there problems with wine. |
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| Gimpexe | well your very helpful none the less =) |
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| oiaohm | I need to do english prac to control my dyslexia. This is useful way todo it. Gimpexe |
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| Gimpexe | i have a friend with dyslexia, he has problems differentiating M's and W's |
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| oiaohm | After years of work I have mine under control. Gimpexe |
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| Gimpexe | thats good news. gj |
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| masterslakk | gimpexe, yes i wonder if i can beat you. |
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| Gimpexe | masterslakk lol |
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| Gimpexe | goodnight all |
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| Gimpexe | masterslakk, my nick on Battle.net is Gimp.exe |
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| Gimpexe | i usually play on USWest of Europe |
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| Gimpexe | =) |
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| Gimpexe | goodnight |
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| luceafar | Hey,I've got a problem here. How to make a shortcut to a file that doesn't accept being run from another location? Here's the concrete example. I run an application (euroloader.exe) using Wine. When I go to the "euroloader.exe" folder and run a terminal there,then type : wine "euroloader.exe" -opengl all works fine |
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| luceafar | but when I create a launcher,for example and type in the command line : wine "/home/luceafar/.wine/dosdrives/C:/Warcraft III/euroloader.exe" -opengl the app. pops out and gives the error : Could not open war3.exe Are you sure the euroloader is in your Warcraft III folder? Any ideas? |
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| Zaba | cd to that directory first |
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| luceafar | yeah,this is how I run it |
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| luceafar | but I want to make a shortcut to it |
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| luceafar | and when I create a launcher,and put in the wine "/home/luceafar/.../Warcraft III/euroloader.exe" -opengl |
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| luceafar | it gives me the same error |
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| Zaba | that is because the program wants to run whilst in the directory it is, and thus the files it needs are in. |
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| luceafar | I understand that,but I want to be able to double-click and enter the app. |
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| luceafar | not run a terminal every type |
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| luceafar | time * |
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| luceafar | in that open folder and type wine "euroloader.exe" -opengl |
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| rethus | can i set the envviroment var PATH into wine cmd ? |
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| AimHere | In the windows stylee, it's %PATH% |
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| AimHere | And your wine %PATH% doesn't really want to be the same as your Linux/Unix $PATH anyways |
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| rethus | AimHere: jeah, thanks. |
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| rethus | but i have the strange thing, that system.reg (which inside of .wine would be overwritten each time with default values. |
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| rethus | u know why? |
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| rethus | a great wish for wine: make us able to set the Enviroment-Vars like PATH (founded into system.reg on KEY: [System\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Session Manager\\Environment] in winecfg |
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| rethus | that woul be realy great |
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| rethus | did anyone know, why system.re gis always overwritten? |
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| rethus | i change something... and some mitutes after that its disappear |
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| rethus | ah, wait... |
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| rethus | it dissapear if u start winecfg |
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| rethus | anyone here listen me, or i'm talking to myself? |
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| rethus | ok, only 3 people listen here... me, myself, and i :D |
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| calum | Hello all. Was directed here from #ubuntu. I cannot get a game to run in wine which a similar one did. Half the menu wont appear |
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| calum | I am using wine 1.01 on Ubuntu 10.04 |
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| grant_ | Hello? |
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| grant_ | I need some help with Wine |
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| grant_ | Is anyone there? |
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| aar0n | yes what are you having problems with |
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| bp0 | I tried to play Starcraft using Wine in Ubuntu 10.04, on AMD Phenom 3.1Ghz, but it was very laggy |
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| bp0 | any ideas? |
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| grant_ | My problem; I do not have "Programs" in the Wine menu |
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| grant_ | I cannot launch programs normally |
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| grant_ | i.e. Microsoft Word 2007 |
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| bp0 | grant_, was it there before? does it still exist in the menu editor, but hidden? |
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| grant_ | It was there before, but then i reinstalled an older version of wine (1.1.42) for microsoft word |
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| grant_ | now it is not there |
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| bp0 | I had a similar problem, and the fix was just to go into menu editor and unhide it |
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| grant_ | How do i do that |
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| grant_ | Ubuntu 10.04 |
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| bp0 | (Ubuntu,Gnome) System -> Preferences -> Main Menu |
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| grant_ | alright |
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| grant_ | How do i "unhide" it |
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| bp0 | the "Show" column checkbox |
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| grant_ | It is not in the "Wine" catergorie |
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| grant_ | All i see is: Brose C: |
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| grant_ | Configure wine |
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| grant_ | and Unistall Wine SOftware |
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| bp0 | then you don't have the same problem that I did, sorry |
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| grant_ | ah |
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| grant_ | Are you running microsoft office on WIne? |
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| bp0 | no, I use OO |
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| grant_ | ah okay |
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| grant_ | What version of wine are you using? |
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| bp0 | 1.2-rc2 |
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| bp0 | did you build your yourself? |
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| bp0 | *yours |
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| bp0 | or is it a package |
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| grant_ | package |
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| grant_ | I downloaded it from the archives |
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| bp0 | huh, honestly the gnome menus are a mystery to me, it all seems very poor |
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| grant_ | i read tutorials that older version of Wine work with microsoft office |
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| bp0 | i bet there is some little problem in the menu system |
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| grant_ | ah |
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| grant_ | okay |
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| grant_ | Also; do you know any good note taking software? |
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| grant_ | That has like a "autodate" so it puts the date automatically |
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| bp0 | ok, maybe i have a solution to your menu problem... |
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| grant_ | ah |
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| grant_ | please share :) |
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| bp0 | http://pastebin.com/kx01Cgwy |
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| bp0 | there is my wine menu file compare it to yours |
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| bp0 | is there anything different? |
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| grant_ | How can i view my menu file |
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| grant_ | Sorry, I am a new ubuntu user |
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| bp0 | in terminal: sudo gedit /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/wine.menu |
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| grant_ | alright |
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| grant_ | should i just copy your wine.menu |
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| bp0 | well look at it first and see what is different? |
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| grant_ | kk |
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| bp0 | is the programs menu included in yours? |
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| bp0 | see, the programs menu is system wide, but the items in the menu are in your ~/.config/... |
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| bp0 | and these xml files get all merged together somehow |
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| bp0 | its not very easy to follow |
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| grant_ | I do have the program menu in mine |
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| grant_ | but i don't know why isn't it showing |
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| bp0 | well, huh |
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| grant_ | here let me give you mine |
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| grant_ | see if anything is odd |
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| bp0 | have you logged out, and then back in since you installed the new package? |
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| grant_ | No |
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| bp0 | you might give that a try too |
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| grant_ | I thought you didn't need to do those things in Linux lol |
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| grant_ | alright |
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| bp0 | yeah, i know |
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| grant_ | http://pastebin.com/n4AveVpb |
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| grant_ | this is mine |
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| bp0 | seems to be the same |
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| bp0 | so, I'm out of ideas |
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| grant_ | but when i copy yours and use it, my whole Wine is gone |
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| grant_ | >____________________> |
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| bp0 | hah |
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| grant_ | alright let me re log in |
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| bp0 | oh, well first line is the filename |
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| grant_ | and see what happens |
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| bp0 | dont include that in yours |
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| grant_ | oh |
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| grant_ | alright let me try again |
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| bp0 | file should start with <! |
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| grant_ | i am going to log in again |
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| grant_ | be right back |
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| bp0 | ok |
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| Grant_W | ALright i am back |
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| Grant_W | The programs are still not there |
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| bp0 | well I'm stumped then, someone else will have to give a try, sorry |
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| Grant_W | alright, no problem |
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| nicklas_ | yo |
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| iamfil | anyone know why when i close a document in photoshop cs2 the whole app closes in kde 4.4? |
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| nicklas_ | iamfil: run it from terminal and do the same thing, copy and paste all terminal text and paste it to pastebin and paste the link here :-P |
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| iamfil | http://pastebin.com/R4MQdT6g there we go. i just started it up, made a new document (file -> new) then clicked the x button on the window. |
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| iamfil | everything works fine, it's just clicking the x causes the whole app to close along with all windows. im guessing maybe it has to do with how kde manages windows? |
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| iamfil | didn't happen in gnome |
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| nicklas_ | iamfil: you clicked the x button that closes photoshop? |
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| iamfil | no, the x button that closes the document inside photoshop |
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| nicklas_ | are you running the same dist? |
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| iamfil | yea, ubuntu 10.04 |
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| iamfil | in gnome it works fine |
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| iamfil | i just turned off "Allow the window manager to deocrate the window" and "allow the window manager to control the window" and i can close documents without closing the whole app |
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| nicklas_ | ah, it has to do with the window manager, not wine |
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| nicklas_ | thats what i was guessing, since you use the same dist, first ubuntu then kubuntu right? |
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| iamfil | yea. so more experimenting, i just disabled "allow the window manager to decorate the window" only and it works fine as well. it appears to happen when the windows are decorated. |
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| iamfil | i used to use ubuntu 10.04, but did a clean install of kubuntu 10.04 |
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| nicklas_ | iamfil: window decoration? u dont use kwin? |
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| iamfil | i do, i meant the wine configuration utility. |
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| nicklas_ | oh |
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| nicklas_ | weird |
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| iamfil | i uncheked "allow the window manager to decorate the windows" |
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| nicklas_ | im afraid i cant tell you why it is like that |
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| iamfil | and amazingly, it works. :/. weird indeed. i've been looking through the kde window settings and can't figure out why |
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| nicklas_ | iamfil: do you use kpackagekit btw? or have you installed software center? |
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| nicklas_ | i use xfce (xubuntu) |
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| iamfil | no, i installed synaptic. it's much nicer. i don't like kpackagekit or software center |
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| nicklas_ | synaptic is even harder to use than kpackagekit i think |
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| iamfil | yea, but im used to it. |
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| nicklas_ | i mean, when i want to install all the games, i want a simple list with the games, not a list with all the packages of the games, takes years to look through that and click what you want :-P |
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| nicklas_ | not so user friendly, one major drawback for kubuntu i think |
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| iamfil | what if you don't like all the games but just want one? |
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| AimHere | apt-get install <name of game> |
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| nicklas_ | well, then i guess you can just use apt-get |
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| nicklas_ | but after fresh install, its nice to be able to look in a user friendly gui for the package manager, so you can check out what you want, especially if you dont know exactly what is in the repos |
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| ozzloy | i am trying to add a language to rosetta stone 3.4.x. i don't have an optical drive, but i do have the files |
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