| Accolade | ok, it doesn't have a possessive quantifier, but vim regex DOES have non-capturing groups, right? RIGHT?? |
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| godlygeek | yep. |
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| Accolade | phew :) |
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| godlygeek | not sure what "possessive quantifier" refers to? |
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| Accolade | godlygeek, that's greedy and not backtracking, normally written *+, can be implemented with atomic groups |
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| Accolade | godlygeek, so what does vim call non-capturing groups or what's the syntax |
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| elik | aren't they atoms? |
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| Accolade | ah, got it |
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| Accolade | \%\( |
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| elik | Accolade, at any rate, it will be around that |
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| godlygeek | :help /\%( |
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| Accolade | it was shortly after \(, should've thought of that |
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| Accolade | I just searched :h pattern for /captur |
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| derrida | what would be a good reference to use to help memorize the substitution regex syntax? i think i need something i can print out and be able to glace at |
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| godlygeek | Accolade: if i understand what possessive quantifers do, :help /\@> |
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| Accolade | right, \%(, not \%\( |
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| derrida | i know them well enough that i hesitate to look things up and i think that it's not a good way hehe |
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| Accolade | godlygeek, right, that's as close as it gets - that's atomic groups |
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| godlygeek | well, then - vim can do it and the syntax just isn't as nice, right? |
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| Accolade | kind of, yes. Like most things in regex, *+ is just syntactic sugar |
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| Accolade | in this case it doesn't save a whole lot, so yeah |
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| derrida | godlygeek: colorchart.vim is really cool :) |
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| derrida | and ... it shows how unbelievably fucked up my color cubes are .... o o |
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| derrida | godlygeek: color6/color14 - cyan/brightcyan? |
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| godlygeek | yep |
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| derrida | i love the controls, very cool |
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| derrida | where did these color charts come from? |
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| derrida | (whales,clouds,cows,slices,ribbon) |
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| godlygeek | stole them from http://excess.org/misc/xterm_colour_chart.py.html |
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| derrida | hehe |
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| derrida | do you use urxvt? |
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| godlygeek | nope, i use xterm-256color |
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| derrida | i might install that just to see how different things look |
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| derrida | sometimes it's best to not mess with what's working though :) |
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| godlygeek | quite, considering that the terminal supports 3 times as many colors. ;-) |
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| Ken69267 | my urxvt has 256 colors :> |
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| derrida | hehe. sort of. |
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| godlygeek | Ken69267: urxvt supports 256 colors only when compiled with a particular patch, and even then i know of no terminfo file that properly describes the resulting terminal that any distribution would know about. |
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| derrida | godlygeek: how much effort do you think it would take for me to write a proper 256 color terminfo? |
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| derrida | i guess i should start by studying the normal one |
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| godlygeek | next to none. the issue isn't creating the trminfo, it's distributing it around so that the other machines you might connect to will know about it. |
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| derrida | i'm root on the machines i connect to |
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| derrida | but i still have never seen a proper terminfo. the xterm-256color terminfo running with urxvt cause loads of issues for me. |
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| derrida | those xterm-256color profiles do not support unicode afaik anyway |
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| godlygeek | well, for creating the terminfo, it's probably enough to just infocmp rxvt-unicode | sed -e 's/colors#88/colors#256/' -e 's/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-256color/g' >rxvt-unicode-256color.tic; tic rxvt-unicode-256color.tic |
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| godlygeek | maybe sudo tic depending on the OS/distro |
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| godlygeek | tic as a regular user works on every linux distro i've ever used, every other OS would require sudo tic. |
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| derrida | godlygeek: do i need to export this TERM manually? |
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| derrida | it still thinks it's rxvt-unicode |
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| derrida | i do see the 6 color cubes though |
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| derrida | omg. vim colors unbearable. |
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| derrida | background is bright red |
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| derrida | hehe |
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| derrida | set term? > term=rxvt-unicode |
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| derrida | hm |
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| derrida | maybe i did need sudo |
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| godlygeek | no, sorry |
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| godlygeek | you'd still need to tell urxvt to set $TERM to rxvt-unicode-256color |
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| derrida | do i need to somehow compile it show it will show up in /usr/share/terminfo/r/ |
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| godlygeek | urxvt -tn rxvt-unicode-256color |
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| godlygeek | nope, on linux it's enough for it to show up in $HOME/.terminfo/r |
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| derrida | ah |
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| derrida | i was just in $HOME :) |
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| derrida | does it remain with the .tic extension? |
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| derrida | the others are +x and no extensions |
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| godlygeek | uh, no - it shouldn't have a .tic extension... |
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| derrida | i think something didn't work right |
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| derrida | hehe |
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| Action: derrida checks his work |
| godlygeek | does infocmp rxvt-unicode-256color show a terminfo file with colors#256 in it? |
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| derrida | no |
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| derrida | infocmp: couldn't open terminfo file /usr/share/terminfo/r/rxvt-unicode-256color. |
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| derrida | thats why i was hunting around there |
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| derrida | hehe |
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| godlygeek | nah, don't worry about the error... |
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| godlygeek | but... that does still mean it can't find the file in $HOME/.terminfo ... so... something went wrong. |
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| derrida | infocmp rxvt-unicode | sed -e 's/colors#88/colors#256/' -e 's/rxt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-256color/g' > rxvt-unicode-256color.tic |
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| derrida | thats the line i did |
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| derrida | oh |
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| derrida | .tic ... |
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| derrida | or is that correct? |
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| godlygeek | that creates a file that contains the input tic needs. |
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| godlygeek | now, you need to run tic rxvt-unicode-256color.tic |
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| derrida | yeah, doesn't seem to be working :\ |
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| godlygeek | does the file look... right? |
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| derrida | it does actually hehe |
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| derrida | i'm turning up tic verbosity |
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| godlygeek | well, you can always try sudo tic rxvt-unicode-256color.tic and then see if infocmp rxvt-unicode-256color.tic works... |
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| derrida | there we go |
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| derrida | hehe |
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| derrida | http://dpaste.com/135680/ |
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| derrida | hm, strange line breaks maybe |
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| derrida | http://dpaste.com/135681/ |
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| godlygeek | ah |
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| derrida | i'm very curious about line 6 |
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| godlygeek | i found the problem... |
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| godlygeek | you copied and pasted wrong. ;-) |
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| derrida | ofc |
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| godlygeek | did you ever run it with sudo? |
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| derrida | yeah |
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| godlygeek | ok. well, then you broke your 88-color rxvt-unicode terminfo file... heh |
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| derrida | <3 |
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| derrida | haha |
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| derrida | no big deal |
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| derrida | the problem was not copying and pasting |
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| godlygeek | see the typo: -e 's/rxt-unicode/ |
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| derrida | as in, i typed it by hand |
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| derrida | haha |
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| derrida | omg |
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| derrida | so, i should probably remove rxvt and reinstall before proceeding? |
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| derrida | since that profile got clobbered hehe |
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| godlygeek | no, don't do that |
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| derrida | ah this is why we didnt mess with /usr/share? |
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| godlygeek | we can still fix it; the only thing that got clobbered was colors#88 got changed to colors#256 |
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| derrida | oh ok |
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| godlygeek | well, it's certainly one of the reasons, heh |
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| derrida | nice that worked |
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| derrida | godlygeek: are the cubes unfolded? |
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| derrida | :) |
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| derrida | in colorchart.vim |
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| godlygeek | yeah - hard to display something 3 dimensional otherwise. ;-) |
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| derrida | i'm on fire tonight |
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| derrida | well, i guess i mean, they are not in a row |
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| godlygeek | not sure what you mean by "in a row" ... |
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| derrida | i'm gonna send you a screenshot, my terminal might still be misbehaving |
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| derrida | http://omploader.org/vMzFmZw |
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| godlygeek | no, that's perfect... except that you seen to have cursorcolumn set, which doesn't play too nicely with colorcube.vim... haha |
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| derrida | i need to figure out which setting is setting things to underline instead of background hilight hehe, excuse that :) |
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| derrida | hehe |
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| derrida | that's a very useful plugin for creating themes |
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| godlygeek | nope, it points out that i should probably unset cursorline and cursorcolumn in the plugin, heh |
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| godlygeek | the idea was stolen from a Dr. Chip plugin, which is actually able to create colorschemes... |
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| derrida | Dr. Chip? |
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| godlygeek | vimgor: dr chip |
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| vimgor | Wish I knew. |
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| godlygeek | vimgor: dr. chip |
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| vimgor | No idea. |
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| godlygeek | vimgor: drchip |
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| vimgor | Dr Charles E Campbell is a pretty nice guy who gives a lot to the vim community, but who's prolific scripts are a 50-50 split between good idea horribly implemented and bad idea even more horribly implemented |
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| derrida | lmao |
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| derrida | i had tried another color plugin sort of sounds like that description :) |
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| derrida | godlygeek: would it be possible to press enter on a color to write the hex into the X selection buffer? |
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| godlygeek | yeah, that would be possible. :) |
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| derrida | this interaction must have been .... mindbending |
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| derrida | getting it to work so well |
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| derrida | godlygeek: maybe i'll hack around and send you a patch if i get that working. makes a pretty badass color picker :) |
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| derrida | godlygeek: i would use it with gimp for sure :) |
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| che_ | hi |
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| derrida | hi che_ |
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| derrida | woops! :) |
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| Guest85006 | hi derrida |
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| godlygeek | should be simple to do. just a :map on <CR> that copies one of the colors.. but, which one? xterm? konsole? term? |
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| derrida | i *think* xterm clone |
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| derrida | oh yeah super easy |
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| derrida | godlygeek: could i use visual mode to select the word after clones: using a word boundary? |
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| derrida | i'm not sure how to code the copying part |
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| godlygeek | give me one sec. |
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| derrida | take your time, i'm doin other stuff here too no worries |
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| godlygeek | derrida: :nnoremap <CR> :let @* = substitute(filter(getline(1,'$'), 'v:val =~ "^Color"')[0], '.*\(#\x\{6}\).*', '\1', '')<CR> |
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| derrida | the let statements are ... awesome |
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| derrida | they're nearly stereograms |
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| godlygeek | haha, that should do the trick, though i'm sure there are better ways to do it. |
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| derrida | i see two distinct animals in one as well ;) lmao |
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| derrida | works great |
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| derrida | i added it into colorchart.vim |
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| derrida | omfg, on the 88 color term these weren't like this at all |
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| derrida | rofl |
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| derrida | i think it's time for bed |
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| Action: derrida makes the connection that cows are animals |
| godlygeek | heh, indeed they are. |
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| derrida | godlygeek: i'm going to make a new color chart and then go to bed :) |
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| derrida | godlygeek: thanks for the help again. i'll use this daily. |
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| godlygeek | hehe, if you say so. i'm glad someone will have a use for it, haha |
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| derrida | btw, it might be an interesting visual effect to set all the color blocks to _ like the way the cursorcolumn line became |
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| derrida | hehe |
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| derrida | well, for people who like to work in a terminal mostly, picking colors is a pita |
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| derrida | i have a little paperback i end up using which isn't very fun either |
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| godlygeek | derrida: try searching for /_/ |
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| godlygeek | assuming that you have hlsearch set |
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| derrida | it turns them on in the cursorcolumn .. bold i think |
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| derrida | probably my theme |
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| godlygeek | right, but - if you have hlsearch set, you can search for /_/ and see that every colored block is just an _ |
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| derrida | hm |
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| derrida | onlh wow |
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| derrida | it was the the theme |
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| derrida | because the _ is the same color so it blends the easiest? |
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| godlygeek | derrida: because it's the smallest, so it makes it least obvious that there need to be some character in that square for the magic to work. |
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| derrida | godlygeek: are the color charts just different representations of the cube? |
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| Action: derrida makes the connection that the "whales" chart are supposed to be whales and not a paper cube unfolded |
| derrida | lmao |
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| derrida | thats what i was asking about before, i didn't realize those were supposed to be whales and was thinking .. ehmm i didn't know cubes unfold that way?? hah |
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| derrida | i assumed these charts were named after various color theorist with animlistic names! |
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| godlygeek | heh, i would never known what you meant if it weren't for the screenshot |
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| derrida | so funny |
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| derrida | who came up with these? |
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| derrida | i mean, are they historical or drchip hehe |
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| godlygeek | the cube shapes? arbitrary. |
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| godlygeek | just different shapes to arrange 216 colors into. |
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| derrida | those shapers are arbitrary?! |
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| derrida | shapes |
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