| user123456789 | the tor client which has the hidden service lines in the torrc is 0.2.1.24 |
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| user123456789 | it would prb |
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| user123456789 | it would probably help if i put HSAuthoritativeDir 1 in the torrc of the DirServer, I'll try that |
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| user123456789 | oh, it is already in the torrc on the dirserver |
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| user123456789 | the dirserver has this message in the log "Configured authority type does not match authority type in DirServer list, Adjusting (14 v 6)" |
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| user123456789 | the version of tor on the dirserver is 0.2.1.21 |
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| OFFShare | dir authorities type: (V1, V2, * HIDSERV, BRIDGE). |
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| user123456789 | OFFShare: do you know what the "(14 v 6)" means? |
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| OFFShare | user123456789: sorry, not found in 0.2.2.13-alpha..and i don't have a 0.2.1.xx source... |
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| user123456789 | just upgrading the dirserver to .25 now, perhaps things will be smoother then... |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: ping? |
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| graffz` | is it possible to used a fix chain? |
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| graffz` | use* |
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| misc | for ? |
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| graffz` | TOR |
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| misc | a fixed chain of relay ? |
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| graffz` | sorry, let me rephrase |
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| graffz` | i just want to relay on a certain host |
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| graffz` | point the TOR program to use a specific relay |
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| DrThodt | anyone setup tor on debian lenny? the torrc reads like its incompatible with how its installed as a daemon running with an init script |
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| graffz` | would that be possible misc? |
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| graffz` | anyone? |
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| ilter | graffz`: It's possible. You can configure strictnodes afaik. |
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| ilter | graffz`: Look for strictnodes option on tor manual: https://www.torproject.org/tor-manual.html |
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| graffz` | its embarassing to say but im on windows and im using the GUI with the vidalia bundle, how am suppose to do that |
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| graffz` | ilter: ok, im checking the web page now |
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| ilter | Hmm .. I'm not sure how it's configured on Vidalia. Maybe you should ask it on #vidalia |
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| ilter | But also on windows you can modify torrc file (tor configuration file) . |
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| graffz` | ilter: on what platform your using TOR? |
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| ilter | graffz`: I'm using Linux. |
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| ilter | graffz`: But sometimes i need to use win. |
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| graffz` | nice, i have compaq presario m2000 |
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| graffz` | im planning to run linux on it |
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| graffz` | is hard to find drivers for notebook? |
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| ilter | graffz`: I don't think so but it's not a Tor issue. |
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| graffz` | ok, back to TOR, i know where the torrc file located |
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| Last message repeated 1 time(s). |
| graffz` | so i just add the lines there? |
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| ilter | graffz`: Yes. |
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| graffz` | ok, thank you sir ilter , brb trying it now |
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| Action: dandon does he (graffz`) mean relay or exit node? |
| Sebastian_ | ilter: pong |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: Hello. I hope you're doing well. I'd like to ask about simulation platform. Remember your script to set up private tor network. Do you have any idea to start traffics from different clients on the private network? |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: Or is there a way to create random traffic on Puppetor? |
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| Sebastian_ | In both cases, you need to program something. But with either my script or puppetor it is really easy to use an external source |
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| Sebastian_ | like maybe a bittorrent client, or something that just fetches http documents from a list |
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| Sebastian_ | just connect to the socksport of any of the clients |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: Good point, if i write a program how to i connect to the sockport? Is there any example program? |
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| Sebastian_ | ilter: well, I'd just use a program that someone has already written. Like wget :) |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: Can we make http requests on it by using a specific port (i.e. sockport of a client)? |
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| Sebastian_ | sure |
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| Action: ilter looks how wget works |
| Action: Sebastian_ suggests a web search for "wget socks proxy" |
| nsa | or: [Tor Bug Tracker] #1376 filed by nickm: #1376: router_rebuild_store() uses a needless tmp file - http://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/1376 |
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| nsa | or: In router_rebuild_store(), we use write_chunks_to_file() to build |
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| nsa | or: cached_descriptors.tmp, and if that is successful, we rename |
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| nsa | or: cached_descriptors.tmp to cached_descriptors. |
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| nsa | or: But write_chunks_to_file() *already* uses a tmpfile to make sure that it[...] |
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| Action: ilter thanks to Sebastian_ |
| Sebastian_ | let me know how it goes, it should be very easy |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: Ok i'm trying it. |
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| bubbles| | hi |
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| Sebastian_ | hi |
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| bubbles| | can i configure tor so that i have more than one ip at once? |
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| bubbles| | so that i have ip_1 on port 8081, ip_2 on port 8082, etc. ? |
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| Sebastian_ | You can run Tor more than once |
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| katmagic | You can, but you'd have to interact with the control port manually. |
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| bubbles| | control port? |
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| Sebastian_ | katmagic: no, you cannot. Socksport can be set only once. |
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| bubbles| | ok, the next question is can i specify that one ip should be used for a few hours, rather than just 10 minutes? |
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| bubbles| | so that i can be sure the various ip_x IPs won't overlap |
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| Sebastian_ | if you're talking to one host only, the trackhostexits optoin might be useful. |
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| katmagic | Old circuits won't migrate to the new routes, so if you do some evil magic you could, right? |
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| bubbles| | Sebastian_ where do i find it? |
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| Sebastian_ | the manpage has stuff |
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| Sebastian_ | http://www.torproject.org/tor-manual.html.en |
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| bubbles| | hm... i'm using it on windows (with vidalia= |
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| bubbles| | * ) |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: This page (https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/TorifyHOWTO) says i need to change environment variable. Is there any option to specify sockport instead of changing env. variables? |
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| Sebastian_ | use a different program :) |
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| ilter | Are you using wget to specify socksport by changing env. variables? |
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| Sebastian_ | yup |
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| Sebastian_ | (meaning: Yes, I have done that in the past) |
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| OFFShare | or .wgetrc |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: Ok. What about torsocks? usewithtor? |
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| DrThodt | SocksPort 9050 # what port to open for local application connections |
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| DrThodt | in torrc |
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| ilter | DrThodt: If you answer for me thank you. I asked it to use wget over socksport which my tor client use. |
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| DrThodt | oh you want wget to go through polipo/tor? |
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| Sebastian_ | ilter: I haven't analyzed most of those choices. Sorry. |
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| ilter | DrThodt: through tor |
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| DrThodt | i cant even get my tor plugin to work :( lol |
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| DrThodt | im hosting tor on a debian box in the lan |
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| ilter | Sebastian_: Thank you for pointing me wget. It's already so good for me. |
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| ilter | OFFShare: Thanks for your answer. Now i'm trying to add socksport on wgetrc file. |
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| ilter | DrThodt: tor plugin? |
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| DrThodt | the tor plugin for firefox |
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| DrThodt | it still isnt connecting to tor |
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| DrThodt | im having to edit torrc and polipo conf to allow clients within my lan |
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| ilter | DrThodt: Do you use TorButton? |
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| DrThodt | yeah |
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| DrThodt | not working atm though |
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| DrThodt | can someone double check my settings? http://pastebin.com/jQjtDia4 |
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| ilter | DrThodt: I think you should change proxyAddress = "127.0.0.1" |
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| DrThodt | would outside hosts be able to connect? |
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| DrThodt | # Uncomment one of these if you want to allow remote clients to |
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| DrThodt | # connect: |
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| DrThodt | proxyAddress = "0.0.0.0" # IPv4 only |
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| arma | the backlog is confusing to me. what are you trying to do? |
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| DrThodt | tor is running on host 192.168.1.100, id like any client in 192.168.1.0 to be able to connect |
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| arma | ah. is polipo or privoxy there too, or are they on your client machines? or are you skipping the http proxy |
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| DrThodt | just polipo |
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| arma | and polipo is where? |
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| DrThodt | on the .100 machine with tor |
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| arma | ok. if your clients are talking to polipo, then a) tor can still just listen on localhost, and b) you need to tell polipo to listen on more than just localhost |
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| dandon | why are the "strongest" exit nodes situated in germany and as good as no servers are from sweden? |
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| arma | if your clients are talking to tor directly too (meaning socks proxy), skip 'a' |
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| DrThodt | ok so default tor is fine, since using the proxy |
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| arma | dandon: germany has a bunch of privacy fanatics. also servers there are cheap. |
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| DrThodt | so I need to fix: |
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| DrThodt | proxyAddress = "0.0.0.0" |
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| DrThodt | allowedClients = 192.168.1.0/24 |
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| arma | dandon: people in sweden don't like privacy, clearly. or at least, don't like it enough. |
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| dandon | about the paranoia i know. but isn't sweden supposed to be prime bandwdith land? |
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| dandon | yeah i guess |
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| dandon | even though they're supposed to be atheists |
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| arma | dandon: i'm going to there next week. i'll see if i can get a better answer. |
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| dandon | oh. nice. arma europe? |
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| ilter | OFFShare: When i add "http_proxy = http://127.0.0.1:10001/ " and "use_proxy = on" lines on wgetrc. But wget gives error: ERROR 501: Tor is not an HTTP Proxy. Any suggest? |
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| arma | sweden |
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| murb | dandon: i'd get just due to geography, germany is better connected to the internet than sweden. |
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| murb | s/get/guess/ |
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| dandon | arma: yes you go to sweden, but you are swedish? |
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| arma | no |
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| ilter | DrThodt: arma is master, asking him is best. Sorry if i directed you wrongly. |
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| OFFShare | ilter: http_proxy = http://localhost:8118 and use_proxy = on thats what i have.. |
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| arma | drthodt: that sounds plausible |
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| ilter | OFFShare: So wget request reaches Tor over Polipo? |
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| phobos | wget wants an http proxy, not a socks proxy |
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| phobos | same with curl |
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| OFFShare | i use privoxy and that works. |
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| ilter | phobos: Is it reason wget can't use direct Tor? |
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| phobos | yes |
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| phobos | i've never been able to get wget nor curl to use tor as a socks proxy |
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| phobos | they both want an http proxy |
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| OFFShare | so privoxy listens on 8118 for http requests. |
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| ilter | phobos, OFFShare, Sebastian_: Thank you so much. I got it. |
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| OFFShare | and wget "http:// whatfile.com/name" works fine. |
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| ilter | Yes now it works fine .. |
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| bubbles| | ok, i started tor manually (over the command-line) but i get a "tor is not a http proxy" message |
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| arma | bubbles|: you're trying to use your tor's socks port as an http proxy. |
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| bubbles| | hm.. but when using the socks proxy websites load much slower |
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| bubbles| | why is that? |
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| arma | https://www.torproject.org/faq#WhySlow |
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| bubbles| | no, when starting it with vidalia it was much faster |
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| nsa | or: phobos committed revision 22250 (/projects/presentations): Add jacob's sourceboston presentation. |
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| phobos | do you mean browsing the web was faster? or starting tor was faster? |
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| bubbles| | browsing was faster |
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| phobos | i suspect that's circuit dependent |
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| bubbles| | why? does vidalia have its own one? |
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| arma | bubbles: you haven't really described enough for us to guess what you're doing. |
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| bubbles| | tor.exe -SocksPort 8084 -TrackHostExits . -TrackHostExitsExpire 21800 - then i put that port as a socks proxy in firefox and started surfing |
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| arma | ah. yes, firefox can't do socks proxies directly. i mean, it can, but its socks proxy support is broken in quite bad ways. |
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| arma | we've been bugging them for a few years to fix it, but they don't fix it. |
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| bubbles| | ok, so what do i do? |
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| arma | that's why we suggest you use an http proxy. |
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| bubbles| | is that what vidalia does? |
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| arma | vidalia is a gui for tor. depending on its config, it starts up tor, or a http proxy, or both, or neither. |
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| arma | perhaps you mean "is that what this bundle i installed that i am calling vidalia does?" |
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| arma | torbutton by default points to localhost 8118, |
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| arma | and the polipo that comes with the vidalia by default listens on localhost 8118 |
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| arma | s/the vidalia/the vidalia bundle/ |
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| arma | same with the tor browser bundle |
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| bubbles| | and polipo then sends the http-requests to the tor-socks-proxy? |
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| bubbles| | is there a page like http://www.torproject.org/tor-manual.html.en for polipo? |
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| arma | http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/polipo/polipo.man.html |
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| arma | or 'no', depending on what you are wanting |
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| dandon | ok. so i just want to clarify a small thing i already asked today.. flash and tor. [2010-04-13 21:03:40] <danieldg> I'm not sure if flash uses a proxy for anything; I know it doesn't for videos |
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| bubbles| | hm... i plan on starting multiple instances of tor (so that i can have different ips and the same time) - do i also have to start polipo multiple times for this to work properly? |
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| dandon | i think this statement is onl valid with on linux |
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| arma | dandon: flash in general can choose whether it wants to use your proxy. that's bad news for your privacy. |
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| dandon | there is no uid for flash on windows. afaik |
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| dandon | so what information apart from lso can be shared.. |
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| arma | lso? |
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| dandon | sorrry. flash cookies |
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| arma | bubbles: probably. what you want is not a common tor set-up. |
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| arma | dandon: well, it could make outgoing connections bypassing tor, thus revealing your ip address. |
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| arma | dandon: depending on which bugs have been fixed or not fixed lately, it can probably get you to run javascript on localhost, tricking you into reading or writing local files (and then it can send them out) |
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| dandon | how do you want to wrap this if you don't have a process for flash in windows.. like this guide show for linux http://coderrr.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/how-to-force-flash-or-any-program-to-use-a-socks-proxy-using-transocks-and-iptables-in-linux/ |
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| dandon | arma: ok |
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| dandon | do any experienced windows users hang around in this channel? |
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| katmagic | Tor implements a transparent proxy internally. |
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| blackpaw | dandon:What do you mean my experienced? |
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| danieldg | bubbles|: you can use a single instance of polipo if you don't mind all your traffic going through only one of the tor instances |
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| dandon | who use windows.. not exclusively but on a regular basis. i still haven't downloaded freecap because i'm still searching for wrappers |
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| dandon | i ran across this linux few hours back so i just wondered.. |
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| danieldg | on linux, you can do tricks with NAT and iptables statistic module to choose a tor instance randomly |
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| ilter | Is there any way to see history of files on svn? For example how can i learn when was this one created; https://svn.torproject.org/svn/torflow/trunk/README ? |
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| arma | ilter: do an svn checkout, then 'svn log' |
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| ilter | arma: How can i do it? |
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