suseROCKs	Note to others:  That's  "a 500 error" not "500 errors."  :-P
Cymage	suseROCKs : hmmm,  makes me wonder if the vhosts are part of the problem
suseROCKs	Cymage:  according to documentation, mod_status is a server-wide directive, not applied to just vhosts.
twkm	read your error log.
suseROCKs	twkm:  it doesn't show up anything in the error logs
twkm	then either you did something very bad (touched the error log while apache had it open) or very stupid (turned off error logging).
twkm	or perhaps you have multiple error logs and you aren't looking at the right one.
suseROCKs	twkm:   You're making some rather gross assumptions  :-)
suseROCKs	I haven't touched the error log,  It does work and I get error messages on other unrelated things which I've resolved
suseROCKs	I believe the problem has to do with properly enabling ExtendedStatus
twkm	i believe a 500 response that isn't logged is the prime problem.
Action: AlbertoP sends Geeko to help suseROCKs
suseROCKs	the syntax listed on Apache's website is quite different from that in our /etc/sysconfig/apache2 file
twkm	sysconfig is sourced by a shell script, it isn't what apache uses itself.
twkm	stuff under /etc/apache2/, in .conf files at least, is what apache uses, and those are influenced by the init script which is influenced by the sysconfig file.
twkm	but in any case, if the log level is low enough for *any* other errors to be recorded, it should also be low enough for a 500.  well, anyway, you probably aren't getting your status because that .conf file isn't actually being referenced, even though the module is being loaded.
AlbertoP	maybe we should give hints IF we know them, or be silent ;-)
twkm	i'll assume that was aimed at me, even though i've provided hints.  i'll probably also ignore something.
suseROCKs	I don't think I'd want my log file recording 500 errors.   That'd be insane
twkm	*shrug*
AlbertoP	twkm: well I know you're trying to help, but I also know it might be annoying for others to read the same hint many times (logs) ;-)
twkm	thanks for finally being concrete.
AlbertoP	just what I think, as always :)
twkm	suseROCKs: sounds insane not to, since they are critical flaws in your configuration, but okay.  since you have no log of the problem you'll probably have to manually trace the includes -- perhaps just manually edit /etc/apache2/sysconfig.d/include.conf, and pray a bit nothing else changes it.
AlbertoP	just an info: on forums there is a thread about apache not loading modules
AlbertoP	suseROCKs: here it explains how to set status stuff --> http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Setup_Howto
suseROCKs	AlbertoP:   link me pls.
AlbertoP	search for apachestats
Action: AlbertoP pats Geeko
BManojlovic	he,llo
felipe__	helo
felipe__	how can install amsn in opensuse 11.2?
felipe__	I have a tkimage library problem
Chrysantine	felipe__: It's in the Packman repository.
Chrysantine	felipe__: http://packman.links2linux.org/package/amsn
bill	Problem with today's automatic updates of SuSe 11.1.  Error message says: r8101-kmp-default-1.013.00_2.6.27.7_9.1-3.1.x86_64 is needed but not available.  How can I get the update to complete successfully?
Chrysantine	bill: Did you receive a kernel update today?
samyak	twkm, just to update you on my hunting to have it all on HTTP... http://www.mediacollege.com/video/streaming/http.html
samyak	twkm, sadly the http streaming is not meant for live streaming ..
Chrysantine	samyak: What kind of live streaming do you want?
samyak	live audio and video streaming ..
samyak	I am currently using hosted account with Flash Media Server
Chrysantine	samyak: Yes but you didn't specify what source.
bitshuffler	bill: add the proper drivers:nic repo and be happy
Chrysantine	samyak: For example a live stream can mean a webcam or a video grabber or a tv channel or.
bitshuffler	bill: and 1.013.... is totally outdated so you might want to update all that stuff
felipe__	tks
Chrysantine	samyak: Depending on what solution you wish there are some possible solutions for you, such a mpeg4ip (mp4live from it) and Darwin Streaming Server to do the actual RTSP serving.
bill	Chrysantine: I do not believe I did, but I'm new enough with SuSe Linux that I am no sure.
samyak	Chrysantine, We are using Sony PD77 video camera
Chrysantine	samyak: Does it present itself as a Video4Linux device you can access?
Chrysantine	bill: Sounds like you've added a repository where you installed those r8101 files but they haven't yet been updated to provide for the new kernel. (Or perhaps there is another repo that does)
samyak	Chrysantine, but at the same time we will have webcam as well to be captured if we want to have mutiple location/views to broadcast ..
samyak	Chrysantine, let me see and tell you
Chrysantine	samyak: If you have a device that works as a V4L/2 device (/dev/video) you can use mp4live and dss to stream it to clients.
bitshuffler	bill: Chrysantine again - you need to add the proper drivers:nic repo - the one you have it for 11.1 without updates so you have to add the _update one as well so you get packages for updated kernels
bitshuffler	s/it/is/
Action: Chrysantine adds bitshuffler_is_a_knob repo.
Action: bitshuffler contains plenty of stuff ;P
samyak	Chrysantine, I would first try with my webcam  for now ...
samyak	I can see /dev/video0 dev  on my opensuse
Chrysantine	samyak: That's most likely your webcam then. Anyway, DSS is not 'free' as in 'free free' but 'free as in beer sorta kinda free'.
samyak	Chrysantine, ohkk ...let me check out both the options ...
Chrysantine	samyak: You might want to read up on .sdp files and how you can serve those to clients via Darwin Streaming Server.
bill	Chrysantine:  Sounds about right.  System monitor says I have Release 121.1, Linux 2..27.7-9-default.  To rephrase, you're saying that the updates need Linux 11.2, I have Linux 11.1, so the updates cannot resolve dependencies.  Do I have to download all of Linux 11.2 and update from a DVD, or is there some incremental update method I can use?
Chrysantine	samyak: Google has *lots* of help on that subject. mpeg4ip package which contains mp4live (the program that does the video capturing and compression, then streaming that via DSS) is available in the Packman repo.
bitshuffler	bill: which part of "You need to add another repo that contains the r8101 package for the updated 11.1 kernel!" don't you get?
Chrysantine	samyak: Alternatively you can use GStreamer to accomplish the same thing, grabbing the video, compressing it and then feeding that video to DSS which serves it to clients.
samyak	Chrysantine, so I will anyway say goodbye to RTMP and FMS/Red5 with mp4live and/or DSS ?
bitshuffler	bill: add http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/drivers:/nic/openSUSE_11.1_update/ and be happy.
rip	does 11.2's new encryption feature include encrypted swap partition as well?  Where can I go to find out more info. about 11.2's encryption feature?
bitshuffler	rip: it's an encrypted lvm on which you can put swap as well
Chrysantine	samyak: RTMP is proprietary stuff and I don't know if oneone has successfully reverse engineered it.
twkm	adobe published their protocol.
Chrysantine	Well that solved that problem, if anyone has actually developed a client/server for it.
samyak	Red5 guys have at least come up with alternative to Flash Media Server
twkm	dss is proprietary too, which was later published.  it just has somewhat better uptake in the not-just-them world.
samyak	Chrysantine, osflash.org/red5 , i guess they have reversed engineered it ... just FYI
Chrysantine	samyak: Ah ok. We didn't have a need for such solution so we built our own hacky-tacky live streaming system.
samyak	Chrysantine, how did you did it ?
twkm	vlc?
Chrysantine	samyak: We used gstreamer.
samyak	I want people to see it in their browser ...
samyak	does using gstreamer or vlc make it browser ready ?
samyak	The reason flash in video streaming is so popular is that almost all have flash plugin installed
samyak	I would check out all the options you guys have come up with
samyak	though
Chrysantine	samyak: Well we don't stream to browsers so.. our needs are different.
Action: evilFunkyFingerz that's an interesting project that I'ed like to try
Vojtaeus	IMHO, You need plugin to be able to use VLC or MPlayer within browser...
samyak	Chrysantine, I understand ... in my case I simply don't know what my user is ...
samyak	Vojtaeus, and asking people to download plugin is not that easy
bill	Chrysantine an bitshuffler:  Sorry, I got behind in the message stream, and was answering an earlier message from Chrysantine.  Remember, I don' know how things are done with Linux.  So, I'll try your suggestions as well as I'm able and get back to you.
Chrysantine	samyak: A quick Google suggests the Red5 is the most popular solution for live streaming on Linux.
twkm	he needs to feed the red5 server.
Chrysantine	bill: Well the bottom line is - you installed the r8101 driver from some repository. You should look at what the repository is.
Chrysantine	twkm: Is Red5 merely a streaming server or does it do encoding/hinting?
samyak	Chrysantine, yup, but what about feeding the data to Red5 from the place of live event ? That part is done by Flash Live Media Encoder which is not available for Linux
bitshuffler	bill: no worries. Also you have to enable "refresh" for those repos since their content changes whenever I drop a new driver in it (e.g. the r8101 one got updated to 1.014 quite some time ago).
cst	hi there
Chrysantine	samyak: There are several tools which can encode files in the fly, mp4live is one such tools - even mencoder can encode into flash on the fly from various sources (even live input). gstreamer cannot (afaik) encode flash yet.
Chrysantine	tools/tool.
samyak	Chrysantine, mp4live will capture and encode and send it to FMS/Red5 ... that would be great !
Chrysantine	samyak: Unfortunately mp4live won't do for you because it doesn't encode flash.
samyak	ahhh :(
cst	Is the "widget on screensaver" supposed to work in kde 4.4 beta2 (opensuse 11.2 factory)? When I try to set up the widgets in the screen-saver interface all I see is an empty workspace with the background-image and an anloge clock - no means there to add any widgets
Chrysantine	samyak: As the name suggests, it's great for serving H264 video however.
samyak	Flash do have a h.264 support now !
twkm	ffmpeg can probably stream to the server.
Chrysantine	That's quite likely.
twkm	http://ffmpeg.org/ffserver-doc.html
Chrysantine	Right, now to make some more coffee and install Slowaris in a VM.
Action: jetscreamer disables coffemaker
Action: gyrfalcon steals coffee filters
Action: evilFunkyFingerz pounds jetscreamer and gyrfalcon
Action: jetscreamer takes sip of coffee
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evilFunkyFingerz	same to u
Action: szal just found out that switching repos from KDE:43 to KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop eliminates some inconsistencies that may lead to orphaned pkgs on 'zypper up'
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poorboywilly	Hi all, I'm trying to enable my compose key.  I've seen instructions to change this in KDE system settings under "region & language", selecting "keyboard layout" and then the advanced tab.  I currently have the option selected "disable keyboard layouts", so the advanced settings are unavailable.  What are the implications if I "enable keyboard layouts"?
bitshuffler	you "enable keyboard layouts"?
poorboywilly	currently selected is "disable keyboard layouts", I have to "enable keyboard layouts" to get to the advanced settings, but what will this do?  Anything I should know about?
bitshuffler	no
bitshuffler	in case the world suddenly stops to spin you can disable it again anyways
ukwiz	after upgrading to 11.2, I seem to have lost my system sounds. Where are they configured?
poorboywilly	I suppose that is true, but I like to keep my system lean and not use something if it isn't necessary
poorboywilly	ukwiz: kde or gnome?
rhorse	ukwiz: /usr/share/sounds look ok?
ihuerti	Kde SC 4.4 Beta 2 Really rocks! perhaps i should not say this: but it feels really stable
ukwiz	poorboywilly: on kde.
ukwiz	rhorse: It is the configuring that is the problem. None of the system sounds happen
Chrysantine	ukwiz: System sounds or sound in general? Amarok, smplayer etc?
eviltoaster_3e	how do i read or write to the serial port?      (USB to SERIAL - servo controller)
ukwiz	Chrysantine: no problem with sounds in general
Chrysantine	ukwiz: alt+f2 / multimedia and check what Notifications output device is set to
twkm	eviltoaster_3e: as you would with "normal" serial ports, though the device names will be slightly different.
eviltoaster_3e	twkm, i dont know how to do that, thats why i ask :)
eviltoaster_3e	twkm, any sites i can read up on
eviltoaster_3e	?
twkm	what are you trying to 'write" to the serial port?
eviltoaster_3e	numbers
rhorse	can you  boot a kernel on  a usb from a bootloader on an (IDE) drive?
twkm	so, something is plugged into a usb serial dongle, and it reads numbers.  thrilling.
twkm	well, good luck.
ukwiz	Chrysantine: I can test notifications there, but it doesn't seem to translate to anything such as system startup and shutdown
eviltoaster_3e	twkm, servo controller controlls servos .... and thay need uc need numbers :P
rhorse	do all bioses support?
sekisushai	hello i've a prob with networking : i've a internet box : 192.168.0.254, a computer with two plugs : the first : 192.168.0.1 linked to the internet box, the second 192.168.1.1 that i would use to share the internet connection
sekisushai	i've configure a dhcp server to give ip 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254 to computer connecting to the plug 192.168.1.1
twkm	eviltoaster_3e: perhaps all you want is echo, as in ... echo 1234 > /dev/whatever
sekisushai	i activate the ip forwading in network settings
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: Check your firewall
sekisushai	when i plug a computer to 192.168.1.1 it can't access to internet
sekisushai	firewall is disabled for the moment..
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: Yast Firewall and put the internal network in the Internal Zone
sekisushai	that's ok
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: Verify  if ip_forward is enabled, by cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
sekisushai	return 1
twkm	sekisushai: for the yast masquerading configuration to work the firewall must be enabled.
sekisushai	so it's ok
sekisushai	it's now enabled
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: YOur fine now?
sekisushai	now i configure dhcp server :
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: And another thing, you need DNS server
sekisushai	card 192.168.1.1 (the free plug)
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: Or set it it to issue a real dns server ip
sekisushai	ip dns i've took those which are in /etc/resolv.conf
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: Yes on the Router/Server and configure DHCP to issue those to the client
sekisushai	gateway which ip to set ? 192.168.0.1 (plug which receive internet connection) or 192.168.1.1 (plug wich is free and available to share the connection) ?
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: Gateway ip should be set to an ip that doesn't conflict with the other card ip
sekisushai	ok so i set a random ip but not 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 ?
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: Gateway = 192.169.1.1 --- eg. randome ip 192.168.1.2 and so on
sekisushai	ok thanks  it work now :)
sekisushai	thank u a lot
evilFunkyFingerz	sekisushai: no problem
bill_	Chrysantine, bitshuffler: Problem solved.  I followed your general advice and updated all my registries using YaST/Software Repositories, than applied all updates using YaST Online Update. I'm still at release 11.1, and all updates were successfully applied.  Thanks!, then used
trevor	im using the live cd, but before i install i need to know two things about KDE
trevor	first is there anyway to change the cursor to a more traditional mouse cursor rather than this obsidian version
Vojtaeus	<trevor> In settings, of course
trevor	is that in configure desktop?? sorry im coming from a couple years of Gnome use
Chrysantine	trevor: alt+f2 and type mouse
trevor	oh nice thanks
Chrysantine	trevor: Learn to use alt+f2 (or remap it to something else) and you won't go back :P
Vojtaeus	Yes! :-)
Chrysantine	Bound it to cmd+space myself.
trevor	also, does PPPoE work right away, in ubuntu, sabayon, and mandriva, their new iterations broke PPPoE for me
Chrysantine	No idea about that one.
trevor	omh just changed the mouse cursor and it is SO much better

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