| effnorwood | CosmicDJ: dumpadm = OS and is /var/crash; coreadm = software and is /var/cores as far as I can tell so far |
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| nikolam | I wander will lofi then get up and represent device automatically upon reboot |
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| nikolam | CosmicDJ, bah, can I mount then dataset in such pool, to directory inside /export/home or I need to mount it in newpool/dir only and to link it? |
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| CosmicDJ | nikolam: no idea, sry |
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| nikolam | ok , thankt |
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| nikolam | thanks |
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| effnorwood | CosmicDJ: thanks - this is exactly what i wanted |
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| betchou | rm -rf * |
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| nikolam | betchou, not nice. |
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| nikolam | but we have snapshots, so.. ;) |
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| betchou | oups |
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| betchou | nikolam: that'is in a build directory :P |
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| nikolam | within a zone under vbox :) |
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| betchou | ls |
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| nikolam | What algorithm you think one should use for lofiadm encryption and to be fast? (there is zfs compression behind it) |
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| nikolam | or do you think it is also OK to turn On Zfs encryption on dataset inside lofi file that itself serides on compressed zfs dataset :) |
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| Action: betchou is doing bullshit with his keyboard |
| nikolam | But I think it would be just a fine thing to do. |
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| nikolam | Compress first with Zfas, encryprt with Lofi and then cud down image size with zfs encryption again |
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| nikolam | I wonder if Lofi device can use more space dinamically and not reside only on one file |
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| CosmicDJ | nikolam: the compression ratio for encrypted stuff should be ~0 % |
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| CosmicDJ | so you'll get nothing but wasted cpu cycles |
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| madwizard | And a geekfactor +1 |
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| madwizard | :) |
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| nikolam | CosmicDJ, but I will get shrinked lofi image :) |
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| nikolam | so I use that much space, how much data is inside lofi |
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| nikolam | :) |
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| nikolam | If I get lofi image to be dynamically sized depending on data usage, I would not need to use second zfs compression |
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| CosmicDJ | nikolam: It's still not clear to me what you want to do exactly |
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| nikolam | CosmicDJ, to mount my documents to be encrypted on nbook :) simple :) |
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| Action: nikolam currently chooses lofiadm crypto algorithm .. |
| CosmicDJ | nikolam: http://blogs.sun.com/darren/entry/encrypting_zfs_pools_using_lofi |
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| nikolam | mm nice :) 10x CosmicDJ |
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| nikolam | wow, this way I have that much data, how much there is space on zfs rpool, very nice :) |
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| nikolam | no I war wrong, that way he get space out of usable size from disk.. |
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| CIA-33 | Alexandr Nedvedicky <Alexandr.Nedvedicky@Sun.COM>: 6912962 Need to compute chksum for packet duped on loopback interface, 6929403 IPF should discard packet silently on OOW event |
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| mui | urr |
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| nachox | congrats on the new job stallion |
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| stallion | nachox: ty |
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| jbk | morning |
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| gdamore | stallion: check your inbox (gmail) |
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| stallion | gdamore: checking |
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| lattera | I'm really considering downloading ON myself and compiling it |
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| lkocman | lattera, do it |
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| stallion | lattera: its a good exercise |
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| stallion | much easier now than it used to be ;) |
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| lattera | each day I grow more and more tired of waiting for 2010.1H |
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| asyd | any one use an opensource job scheduler? |
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| glance | torque |
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| lkocman | asyd, I used maestro ... but I don't think that it's opensource |
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| lattera | like, I love opensolaris and its unique features it brings, but this waiting game is just killing me, heh |
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| stallion | lattera: there are reasons for the delay |
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| asyd | tomww: |
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| lattera | ya, I know |
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| asyd | oups |
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| stallion | assuming you want a release that actually works, waiting would be advised. |
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| lattera | of course |
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| asyd | glance: it was for me? |
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| asyd | seem yes |
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| lattera | I'm not complaining, I'm just running out of patience... there's some cool ZFS features coming up I'd like to use |
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| glance | we are currently using torque/maui but somewere in the future we are probably switching to slurm |
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| gtirloni | lattera: if you're not using it in production, you can use b134.. closest thing to 2010.whatever (without bug fixes and any backports that Oracle might decide to add) |
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| lattera | ya, I'm using b134 right now, even in production |
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| papertigers | how often does zpool scrub find errors for you guys? |
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| asyd | glance: is the maui also opensource? (or at least free) |
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| lattera | I've never had a disk error, but maybe that's because the disks are new |
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| TomJ | Solaris 10 question, if you'll oblige me: I'm trying to replicate a system, FLAR-stlye, using ZFS send/receive. basic principle: zfs send -R rpool/ROOT/s10_u7_ga, then do a fresh install on a new system, drop to shell, do zfs receive, and then zpool set bootfs=rpool/ROOT/s10_u7_ga. I have done this many times before and it worked |
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| papertigers | lattera: i have had it find errors on my raidz twice now and they are brand new disks |
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| TomJ | but now I am trying it on some IBM servers, and it won't obot - after grub, it just blan screens. failsafe mode says it can't find /boot/x86.miniroot-safe |
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| lattera | interesting |
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| TomJ | the new dataset i created certainly has a /boot/x86.miniroot-safe, so I am not sure why grub would say it can't find it. any thoughts? one difference this time is that I did the new install using U8 before restorting a data set that was U7+Nov09 Patch set. |
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| glance | asyd: http://www.clusterresources.com/products/maui-cluster-scheduler.php |
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| TomJ | when booting in failsafe grub, it reports: "find root (pool,_root,0,a) / filesystem type is zfs, partition type 0xbf / kernel /boot/multiboot -s / module /boot/adm64/x86.miniroot.safe / error:15 ile not found' |
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| TomJ | so it found and read the FS ok, or so it seems |
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| lattera | seems like it's not looking for /boot/x86.miniroot-safe |
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| TomJ | oh |
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| TomJ | that's a startingly relevant point |
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| TomJ | and I dont have a /boot/amd64 on the u7 system i copied. hmm |
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| TomJ | thanks lattera |
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| Action: stallion sighs. |
| stallion | nothing like a nightly on a local vmware guest |
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| jbk | stallion: does it inspire you to 'mv nightly weekly' |
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| jbk | =] |
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| stallion | I usually run nightly to get a fresh onbld and then do incrementals after that :P |
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| stallion | s/onbld/on build/ |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6940505 MT issues in pkinit |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6936957 Bad free in gssint_convert_name_to_union_name |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6932987 memory corruption in kadm5_is_master |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6941162 krb5_encrypt_helper returns success and an apparently valid buffer on malloc failure |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6941173 logic error in krb5_build_principal_ext |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6941180 krb5_gss_accept_sec_context doesn't check return value of krb5_auth_con_getauthenticator() |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6941191 krb5_send_tgs doesn't do all the error checking it could |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6941201 double-frees on error path in krb5_os_hostaddr() |
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| CIA-33 | Mark Phalan <Mark.Phalan@Sun.COM>: 6941204 krb5_fcc_read_addrs() returns garbage on failure |
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| jbit | epic commit |
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| jbk | =] |
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| papertigers | are there any programs to monitor S.M.A.R.T. from the hard drives? |
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| lincz | Do anybody knows, when b134a will exit from the QA |
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| lattera | no smrt? grrrr |
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| alanc | lincz: no |
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| nachox | alanc, i'm surprised you're not tired of answering to all the fud in osol-discuss |
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| tomww | SFEsmartmontools.spec |
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| alanc | dammit |
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| alanc | nachox: it was nicer than "Oracle is fully supporting the Solaris modernization project - just not necessarily YOUR vision of it." |
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| alanc | now I've lost whatever the rest of topic used to be |
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| lattera | maybe: We only know 2010.1H should be released in the first half of 2010 |
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| lattera | so I'm looking at http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/downloads/on |
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| lattera | since I'm on b134, I should grab b136's code? |
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| gtirloni | lattera: i'm not sure pkg.opensolaris.org/dev has been updated to anything greater than b134 |
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| lattera | right, IPS is still at b134 |
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| gtirloni | and even less sure if you can run that with a >b134 onnv |
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| lattera | hrmm |
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| papertigers | what is your guys opinions on nexenta vs opensolaris |
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| stallion | hah |
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| papertigers | stallion: not as good? |
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| stallion | papertigers: oh sorry, no, my comment was about something else |
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| papertigers | ahh okay |
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| stallion | alanc: I did a search for "opensolaris icon" and came across: http://www.alobbs.com/albums/opensolaris_dev07_mugshots/P1090130.jpg |
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| stallion | apparently good thinks you are an icon :P |
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| papertigers | do you have an opinion on nexenta though, trying to decide on an os for my storage server |
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| stallion | honestly I don't have much experience with it. they've done quite a bit with storage (which is a good thing) |
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| papertigers | do you run opensolaris as a storage solution |
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| Triskelios | yeah, most people here aren't terribly familiar with nexenta... seems reasonable if you're not already famiiar with osol, as long as you're aware of the limitations in their free vs commercial releases |
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| papertigers | Triskelios: I am just trying to pick the best OS for my setup, it seems the only way to get updates with osol though is to use the dev channel |
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| venture37 | trying to boot my poweredge t105 from the b134 iso I get the following error then the system reboots http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5278/img0099bt.jpg |
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| taemun | poke in the dark, try turning off IOMMU? |
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| Triskelios | papertigers: if you want updates between production releases without buying support, yes |
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| venture37 | taemun: how do I dont that? |
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| venture37 | s/dont/do |
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| taemun | hah nice typo |
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| taemun | I'm not sure in the Dell BIOS |
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| taemun | but I'll wager theres a button for it |
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| taemun | maybe called intel vt-d |
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| taemun | (intel vt-x is a different thing) |
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| venture37 | t105 is amd opteron based |
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| taemun | my bad |
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| taemun | IOMMU is the amd name for it |
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| Triskelios | IOMMU is also the technical non-marketing name for the feature |
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| taemun | ^^ |
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| venture37 | I have high prescission event timer & demand based power management |
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| taemun | tbh I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the bios as VT-d anyway |
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| venture37 | not a lot else that's relevant |
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| taemun | umm |
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| Triskelios | venture37: there's no actual error in the screenshot, but presumably the system is about to start the X server at that point |
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| Triskelios | venture37: can you boot with -vk? |
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| taemun | I'll go away, there are folks who know something around :P |
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| venture37 | http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5699/img0100z.jpg |
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| CIA-33 | batschul <Frank.Batschulat@Sun.COM>: 6382683 lofi is confused about sync/async I/O |
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| derekv | hmm, so, to fork out a couple hundred bucks more for an enclosure with hot swap bays or spend the money on a couple more hot spares instead.. |
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| venture37 | Triskelios: http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5699/img0100z.jpg |
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| taemun | derekv: depends on priorities, surely |
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| taemun | having hot spares doesn't really help if you can't power down to swap over the broken hard drive |
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| taemun | well .. it kinda does |
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| venture37 | Triskelios: I'm at the kmdb prompt now |
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| venture37 | booted up with -vk |
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| derekv | Since this machine is not gonig to run critical apps, its mostly going to be a ternary backup and archival destination, so 100% availability isn't a huge priority, but I do think about the fact that I am not gonig to be onsite a lot of the time in the future |
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| derekv | I'm just thinking out loud. |
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| TomJ | I put a bad disk label over a disk with prtvtoc | fmthard - I copied a 135GB disk label on to a 300GB drive. now I can't get rid of it and get it back to the right label - I tried fdisk -B, I tried deleting the fdisk partition and recreating in format. but when I do the partition list, it still shows s2 (backup) as being 135GB |
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| Triskelios | venture37: https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=10874 |
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| alanc | stallion: lol |
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| stallion | alanc: thought you might get a kick out of that ;) |
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| Triskelios | venture37: appears to actually be a be a broadcom driver issue, there is another workaround at http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0qZUb_x9UooJ:bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do%3Fbug_id%3D6852825+6852825 (b.o.o is down right now) |
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| venture37 | Triskelios: trying it now |
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| venture37 | YAY |
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| venture37 | :) |
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| Triskelios | venture37: you have some familiar-looking relics in the right of the photo ;P |
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| venture37 | Triskelios: http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2537/img0102lm.jpg |
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| venture37 | one of the ultra 1s has a dead nvram & the other either needs the ram reseating or dead motherboard, either way, I will be able to bring one back to life using parts from the other |
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| derekv | how often do you think i'd need to pull out the server if the drives are all internal, sata consumer grade disks, ... with 10 disks, say afr of around 4%, 40% of years, thats less than once a year. |
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| derekv | I bet afr is higher than that. |
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| Stric | I have a sata storage (8disk) that has worked for 5+ years of pounding without any issues.. so it all depends.. |
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| TomJ | I have 16 x Maxtor 400GB drives in an array which I got second hand, and must have been at least 3 hours before I got them - 3 years ago - and I've had only 1 drive failure in all that time. and before that I thougth maxtor drives were the shittest of the shittest. |
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| TomJ | s/hours/years/ |
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| TomJ | admittedly I use them very lightly now - home media - but they're probably too hot |
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| derekv | hmm, so maybe. |
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| Triskelios | venture37: apparently you can replace the battery in the old NVRAM modules with a regular CR2032 |
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| venture37 | Triskelios: yes, too much hassle |
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| vraa | zfs is a mixture between heaven and peanut butter |
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| vraa | it's so amazing, the snapshot feature is so perfect, combined with dedupe, combined with compression, it's just all so sweet |
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| vraa | i have files stored on a windows pc, and the osol box running zfs just rsyncs --delete every few minutes from the winpc to the osol box and it auto makes the 15 minute snapshots |
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| Triskelios | dedup is far from perfect right now |
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| Stric | and if you're doing it wrong, it gets sticky |
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| vraa | i set dedup=verify |
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| alanc | feeding it to a dog isn't as amusing to watch as pure peanut butter though |
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| effnorwood | vraa - just don't try to zfs destroy on a dedup file system - you will be very sad |
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| venture37 | Triskelios: Thanks for your help |
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| venture37 | I gtg |
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| RoyK | Triskelios: dedup isn't very close to perfect now |
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| vraa | why would i want to destroy my data lol? :) btw, i am doing "pfexec zfs list" and it used to give me the dedupratio but now i can't find it. i also did "pfexec zfs get dedupratio" and it pretends like nothing exists |
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| RoyK | vraa: zpool list |
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| RoyK | dedup is done in the pool, not in the dataset |
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| vraa | ah thanks, lol so many times i confuse zfs and zpool, my dedup ratio is 3.77x |
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| wrapster | im running into locale issues again.. and this time please take a loo at it.. it explains evertyhing... im unable to get thing working with ssh ... no matter what i try... If i export LANG then everything is fine.. By default after i change the init file and reboot.. nothing seems to occur...http://pastie.org/954070 |
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| wrapster | pls help.. |
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| edude03 | Hey everyone |
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| edude03 | Can anyone recommend a (solaris compatible) relatively affordable sata card |
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| stallion | edude03: AHCI chips are the best supported, but there aren't many available as a card |
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| stallion | baring that, it depends on what you want to use the controller for |
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| stallion | if you don't need ATAPI, the mv88sx chips are fine |
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| edude03 | ZFS pool |
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