| nago | My desktops run W7 and Win2003. Laptop is Vista/Ubuntu, Netbook is Ubuntu NBR, Server is F11 |
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| f_newton | I cant wait for el6 |
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| DiscordianUK | Not having net connectivity at the vts was a pain |
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| akjeff1 | how long should it take that teardrop to fill up |
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| BobLfoot | osubuck: have you looked at http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia/ |
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| f_newton | DiscordianUK, I usually use my broadband card for "away" games... it has autostarted since f10 |
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| mharris | The thing I'm most wanting EL6 for, is the fact that the OS supplied list of packages will likely be a bit bigger, and much newer which will make building addon repositories easier, so there should be more packages available for EL6 than what is easily buildable for EL5 right now without ransacking half the OS. |
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| akjeff1 | It seems to lock up and not move after a couple seconds |
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| grifo74 | it's possible make live usb with fedora 12 dvd iso? |
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| f_newton | akjeff1, you have a hardware issue there |
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| f_newton | the dvd? whoa |
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| mharris | Also hoping for more mature X hardware support |
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| f_newton | I doubt it |
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| f_newton | well night campers ... dont forget to brush your teeth |
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| nago | when is EL6 due out? |
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| mharris | nago: Red Hat doesn't discuss it officially. You'll find estimates of anywhere from a few months ago, to 2011 if you google around. |
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| mharris | Most from people who "think they know", but no concrete answers. :) |
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| mutk | It is in 'active development' :) |
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| osubuck | yum --enablerepo=rp*g install akmod-nvidia-173xx xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-libs.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-libs.x86_64 if i don't have a 64bit computer would i leave out the last bit? |
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| nago | I should hurry up and take that RHCE exam. Don't want to have to end up taking it on 6.- |
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| mharris | I think it will be no sooner than 9-12 months from the first beta release date, but it could be longer if Red Hat has a good reason to hold it back. |
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| akjeff1 | well it runs ok with 8 and instaled just fine... so .. gues I will look at another version to install .. thanks |
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| mutk | nago, Why would you be worried about that |
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| grifo74 | when i try install fedoara 12 in my pc in portuguese language they give a error ????????why in inglish install fine |
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| nago | because I am horrified of that exam o_O |
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| osubuck | yum --enablerepo=rp*g install akmod-nvidia-173xx xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-libs.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-libs.x86_64 if i don't have a 64bit computer would i leave out the last bit? |
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| BobLfoot | osubuck: read the link I sent you - FX5's are not supported by the xorg-X11 drivers in F12 |
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| mutk | nago, Heh. Well the technological changes from RHEL5 to RHEL6 will be big.. But then we had bigger changes from RHEL3 to 4.. |
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| mharris | News articles from over a year ago suggest that RHEL 6 beta would be Q1/Q2 of 2009, but I haven't seen any RHEL6 beta release yet. |
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| osubuck | BobLfoot: then why does this person make a tutorial specifically for F12 and the FX cards if they indeed don't work? |
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| nago | I learned on 4/5.. I just want to get a cert before I transfer schools so I can at least get my foot in the door as an intern somewhere |
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| mharris | IMHO, RHEL4 was the first "good" RHEL release. |
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| nago | maybe plugging in cables, getting coffee for people... |
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| nago | aim low! |
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| BobLfoot | osubuck: if you fond a tutorial follow it |
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| mharris | I really never cared for RHEL 3 or 2.1, probably because of the software maintenance headaches |
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| mutk | mharris, It took big steps towards seriously scalable for sure.. |
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| osubuck | BobLfoot: here is the tutorial http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1114769&postcount=1 |
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| mutk | mharris, RHEL4 that is.. |
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| osubuck | BobLfoot: i was going to get the akmod i686 |
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| mharris | mutk: yep, each new major release seems so much more refined and more like an integrated OS too. Older releases seem more like random collections of software aggregated together. |
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| BobLfoot | osubuck I used the akmod ; kmod combo on F11 with good success but ahve not jumped to F12 yet on my FX5200 system sorry |
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| mutk | mharris, As well as the x86_64 as a platform matured massively with each new release. |
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| osubuck | BobLfoot: well i have some free time to waste to i might try this tutorial one more time |
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| mutk | x86_64 is completely usable as a desktop OS now. Appart from a few oulying apps |
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| mharris | mutk: indeed. I'm so glad to see that x86_64 nowadays is practically as solid and reliable as x86 too, with almost all software being available for it too, or the ability to run the odd x86 thing where an x86_64 build isn't avail. |
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| BobLfoot | osubuck: let us know how it works and the party line is at the link I provided |
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| nago | you mean x64 isn't voodoo? |
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| mutk | I'd suggest that x86_64 is actually more stable than 32bit can ever be. Simply due to the memory layout. |
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| mharris | I do still notice the occasional x86_64 app glitch that isn't reproducable on the 32bit build, but they're fewer and further between nowadays. |
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| mharris | vlc sometimes has some 64bit issues |
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| mutk | nago, Nope it is dime a dozen now.. |
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| nago | grumble VLC grumble |
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| mharris | nago: x86_64 has ran pretty awesome since about Fedora 7 or 8 |
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| Action: mutk will never consider running 32bit Fedora ever again.. |
| nago | mharris, mostly joking. I'm running the 64bit build here at home, works good. only hiccup I ran into was running the source engine for a dedicated server, distributed only as x86 bin |
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| mharris | I've got one AMD64 box running 32bit right now, but when it is next upgraded it will go back to x86_64 and remain. |
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| nago | just had to figure out which 32bit lib packages to grab |
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| mharris | Every new Linux install I do on any AMD64 capable hardware from now on will be an x86_64 installation also. Only exception might be a 32bit install just for software testing/compat. |
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| osubuck | BobLfoot_AFK: wish me luck |
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| mharris | nago: yep, or package it in rpm format :) |
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| mharris | That's what I always do, even for commercial stuff where there's no source avail. |
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| mharris | NoSource rpm, and ldd is my friend ;) |
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| AndyCap | mharris: if only the 64-bit atoms were widespread too |
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| pk__ | i used netbootin to make a bootable f12 pen drive |
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| nago | oh, a friend takes care of the Team Fortress 2 server, he just whines at me when it breaks |
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| nago | I guess I'd make it an RPM if I knew how |
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| pk__ | anaconda starts then some iso 9660 could not copy image something error omes |
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| pk__ | help |
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| eross | trying to play quakelive, selinux is blocking me, said some python code is trying to do a create and then something about writing to my home directory in a hidden folder the /home/[name]/.[folder] |
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| mharris | AndyCap: yeah, it's kind of lame that they started making 32bit-only CPUs again. |
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| nago | oh yah... I have a 32bit atom :( |
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| nago | I didn't realize it was 32bit until after I got it. I just had assumed since it didn't mention arch it was naturally 64bit |
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| nago | whoops |
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| mharris | It's only a matter of time until all desktop apps use more than 4GB of RAM each though, from having been rewritten in python+ruby+java, so no worries. |
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| mutk | heh |
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| mharris | gnome-calculator, now written in ruby! 6GB RSS! |
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| AndyCap | "x86-64 is so far only activated for the Atom 230 and 330 desktop models." |
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| nago | 4GB each o_O ... I imagine someday that will happen but I suppose the bets are for when that'd happen... |
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| Action: mutk seems to always gravitate to using C .. |
| mharris | mutk: +1 brother! :) |
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| pk__ | please somebody or i will have to moveonto ubuntu |
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| eross | i dont think it's letting me install adobe flash plugin for firefox, even though I jump through the hoops and do a manual install and it says it's already installed (after I installed it) |
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| mutk | I hack away at Python for some things when it is quick and dirty. But I always feel better doing it properly in C.. |
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| AndyCap | nago: yesterday, since My Xorg, Firefox, gnome-screensaver, gnome-keyring and gnome-system-monitor gladly sucks up about 4GB after some days. |
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| AndyCap | and firefox is the smalles of them. |
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| nago | that's not 4GB/ea though :D ... but firefox is the smallest you say? |
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| mutk | I just love those elf binaries :) |
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| eross | pk__ I just came from ubuntu, I came here for a challenge which it is working out to be |
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| nago | firefox ... NOT being the ram hog? |
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| nago | how magical :D |
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| AndyCap | pk__: it's not really clear what you're trying to do. |
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| AndyCap | nago: more annoyed at gnome-screensaver sucking up 900Mbyte. |
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| AndyCap | and I'm sure they'd all grow to 4Gb if I had 16Gb of ram |
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| pk__ | i made a bootable pen drive |
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| pk__ | then i am installing fedora |
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| pk__ | but unable to install |
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| pk__ | is it enough? |
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| nago | AndyCap, I dislike gnome-screensaver for far more superficial reasons, but I suppose it's always nice to know that It is terrible anyway |
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| eross | pk__ how come you can't install to the pen drive, what message are you getting |
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| pk__ | i am not installing it to pen drive |
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| pk__ | i am installing from a pen drive |
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| nago | and anaconda gave you an error regarding something to do with 'iso9660'? |
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| pk__ | ok i do it no step by step and then will tell you |
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| nago | in my tiny uneducated brain, I am thinking that anaconda is looking for a CD and not finding one, or something of the sort ... |
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| pk__ | i have a pen drive which i made using unetbootin and fedora 12 iso file |
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| nago | but the exact error message will help. |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: you using dvd ? |
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| nago | he's using a pen drive. |
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| rubyonrails3 | nago: i know but dvd or livecd he is using |
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| pk__ | first fedora copyright screen |
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| pk__ | i pressed next |
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| pk__ | finding storage drives |
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| pk__ | hostname |
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| pk__ | i put localhost |
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| pk__ | then selected area |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: you going right |
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| pk__ | now partition time |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: tell about your parition |
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| pk__ | it is showing sda and sdb |
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| pk__ | sda is hard disk which i want to format completely and make deafult partition |
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| rubyonrails3 | ya sda is hard drive and sdb will be flash |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: means sdb will be pen drive |
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| pk__ | sdb is flash from which i an installing |
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| rubyonrails3 | ya right pk__ |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: are you formating every thing ? |
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| Azaryah | had a ton of errors earlier that forced me to reinstall because I could NOT access anything, not even through a virtual terminal |
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| Azaryah | I've written down the errors if you would like them |
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| rubyonrails3 | Azaryah: what are they ? |
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| Azaryah | I received all of them after rebooting |
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| rubyonrails3 | Azaryah: mention some so others can resolve your problems |
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| Azaryah | first error I received: Could not update ICEauthority file /home/Azaryah/.ICEauthority |
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| pk__ | sorry net disconnect |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: no worries |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: so you have done partiton |
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| pk__ | in the first list box |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: choose custom layout |
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| Azaryah | after clicking okay I received this next error: There is a problem with the configuration server (/usr/libsec/gonf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) |
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| Azaryah | after clicking okay on that error, i received this next one: Nautilus could not create the following required folders: /home/Azaryah/Desktop, /home/Azaryah/.nautilus |
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| rubyonrails3 | Azaryah: did you installed after formating ? |
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| Azaryah | After I clicked okay on that, Nothing popped up. Oh, and this happened AFTER I tried to log in |
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| Azaryah | Yeah. That was my third reinstall lol |
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| rubyonrails3 | Azaryah: one solution is to make a new user |
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| Azaryah | okay. well, here's what happened. I went into a virtual terminal |
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| pk___ | yes and then in custom layout? |
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| Azaryah | and tried to login that way and it said there was no home directory |
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| Azaryah | and it gave a a bash line |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: tell how much you want for fedora in gb ? |
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| Azaryah | how do I create a new user under virtual terminal |
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| pk___ | whole of it |
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| pk___ | 114270 mb |
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| sniffit | Azaryah, |
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| sniffit | su |
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| rubyonrails3 | Azaryah: beign a super user |
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| rubyonrails3 | useradd user_name |
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| rubyonrails3 | passwd user_name |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk___: |
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| sniffit | adduser -m -s /bin/bash <insert username> |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk___: do you have to save some data or not ? |
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| Azaryah | useradd user_name passwd user_name, then adduser -m -s /bin/bash <insert username> |
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| sniffit | Azaryah, nope |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk___: delete your all drives first (You will lost all of your data ) |
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| pk__ | no |
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| sniffit | the command i gave will create a user, a shell and creates a home directory for that user |
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| rubyonrails3 | than click new and create a /boot partiton of 500mb |
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| sniffit | passwd username is to change the passwd of that username |
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| Azaryah | okay. then I can login in from there? |
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| Azaryah | understood |
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| pk__ | wait |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk__: k |
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| Azaryah | okay. so what happened to my other user. I was logged in, when I learned I couldn't access anything, so I rebooted, and logged in, and got all those errors |
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| sniffit | Azaryah, no idea ... you can try as a superuser doing this command ls -l /home |
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| rubyonrails3 | Azaryah: they are safe don't worry |
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| sniffit | and see if there's a directory of the other user is there |
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| Raptor32 | hello there! |
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| Azaryah | understood. what does that command do |
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| Raptor32 | I'm new to fedora |
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| rubyonrails3 | Azaryah: list users home dir |
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| Azaryah | okay |
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| Raptor32 | I'd like to know how to read the message from "Leave Message" operation in screensaver |
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| deco | where can i see a list of broadcom cards supported by fedora 12's open broadcom firmware ? |
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| sniffit | Azaryah, ls is the equivalent of dir of DOS commands |
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| Raptor32 | somebody ? |
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| sniffit | @saylucky open broadcom firmware |
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| fedbot | open: http://www.broadcom.com/support/ (this is a google 'I feel lucky' search result) |
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| Azaryah | understood. How can I move a repo from my downloads folde /etc/yum.reps.dr to the |
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| Azaryah | blah..sorry from downloads folder to /etc/yum.repos.d |
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| Raptor32 | COuld somebody plz help ? |
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| Raptor32 | I'd like to know how to read the message from "Leave Message" operation in screensaver |
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| rubyonrails3 | Raptor32: i think when you leave some message when you login in back you get that message |
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| Raptor32 | im not gettng it |
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| Raptor32 | how does it appear ? |
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| Raptor32 | in a box ? |
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| rubyonrails3 | Raptor32: i meant it just diplay like flash message |
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| Raptor32 | oh. |
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| Raptor32 | nothing of that sort is happending. |
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| rubyonrails3 | Raptor32: wait i try on pc |
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| pk | the installer has tries to mount image #1 but cannot find it on hard drive please copy this image to the drive and click retry |
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| rubyonrails3 | pk: you using dvd or cd ( i know pen drive but what you put on pen drive ) |
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| pk_ | the installer has tries to mount image #1 but cannot find it on hard drive please copy this image to the drive and click retry [14:47] <pk> missing iso 9660 image |
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