airstrike	you import the class, create an instance and then magic happens
ameoba	So, I'm looking at http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/CookBookThreadlocalsAndUser and wondering how, under the hood, threads are handled.  Are they recycled or does each request get a new thread?
JohnnyL	I get: >>> r = test_api.TestAPIUsage >>> r.test_aim_calls <unbound method TestAPIUsage.test_aim_calls> >>> r.test_aim_calls() Traceback (most recent call last):   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>TypeError: unbound method test_aim_calls() must be called with TestAPIUsage instance as first argument)
synic	JohnnyL: you either have to create an instance of TestAPIUsage or declare the method as static
JohnnyL	r is the instance
synic	r isn't an instance
synic	r is trying to capture the return value of the function
reesefrancis	how can I unregister models from the admin site? I've created an admin.py and I have to unregister them
igors	reesefrancis: admin.site.unregister(MyModel)
jim---	Couldn't you just remove them admin.py?
Powerplay	andym, hmm tried the initial in the form without succes http://dpaste.com/150905/
andym	Powerplay: you read the docs on this?
Powerplay	andym, http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.0/ref/forms/fields/#initial
Powerplay	that[ what i read
andym	which is completely different from your code :)
andym	forms.ForeignKey?
Powerplay	andym,  i think it's the ForeignKey field that gives the probnklem
Powerplay	exactly
whatupderek	is there a way to have an inline for a UserProfile?
Powerplay	but this is the model     blog = models.ForeignKey(blog)
whatupderek	where UserProfile is an inline for User
Powerplay	andym, what do you reckon for the primary key?
sachman64	I thought I remember reading somewhere that you have to have both the project path and the project's parent path on sys.path to make things work. Is that true? I think I'm getting some weird behavior because of that
subsume	depends on how you set things up
subsume	whatupderek: an inline...... sure.
subsume	Powerplay: what do you mean 'reckon'?
whatupderek	it's saying something about nothing having a foreign key to the user model
subsume	whatupderek: well... does your userprofile have an FK to the user model?
whatupderek	because the 3rd model is related to UserProfile
whatupderek	yeah
subsume	third model?
whatupderek	yeah
subsume	third model?
JohnnyL	synic thanks, I tried the following implementation but still have not had success... http://code.activestate.com/recipes/52304/ <--- is this even valid??
Powerplay	subsume, reckon as in think
subsume	Powerplay: think what?
Jonty	Django svn is complaining about a CSRF token not being there, but I've not turned on protection using middleware or decorators. What's going on?
apollo13	JohnnyL: why not use @classmethod?
Powerplay	subsume, think about this 'hi what is the best way to pass a value from a view to a form? http://dpaste.com/150887/ '
subsume	what's the best way to apss a value from a view to a form?
JohnnyL	apollo13 not familiar with @classmethod, but I'll look into it. (can you guys recommend a good book on python?)
apollo13	python in a nutshell by alex martelli
apollo13	at least if you know another programming language
Powerplay	subsume, yup, or alternatively predefine a value in a form
apollo13	it surely isn't a tutorial style book, more like a reference (but again not really a reference, somewhere between ;))
subsume	Powerplay: why?
Powerplay	subsume,  to avoid bothering users with difficult questions
JohnnyL	apollo13 looks good.
subsume	Powerplay: ... can you explain what you're trying to do ?
Powerplay	subsume, so I'd like to create different html links and render the same form with predefined values
subsume	your code snippets and your description make no sense.
subsume	create different html links and render the form with predefined values makes no sense
Powerplay	ok
subsume	you make no sense. try again.
Action: JohnnyL high fives apollo. thanks!
JohnnyL	works
Powerplay	subsume, well this is the model http://dpaste.com/150915/ and the forms works perfectly well. Though there is a dropdown for the posts to attach them to a blog
subsume	ok
subsume	so exclude the fields you don't want
Powerplay	subsume, so i exclude 'blog' but it[ a required field :)
subsume	ok, so pass in its value to the form and override form __init__ and set it manually in a save override
Powerplay	subsume, ok that makes sense
subsume	when you make sense, I make sense.
mad_moses	hi, i wrote a templatetag which returns a number, i can use it in my templateengine with {% mytemplatetag %}, but i want it in a if construction like {% if "3" > {% mytag %} %} but this throw an error, what can i do?
subsume	not that.
subsume	you can update the template's context
mad_moses	<- ?
subsume	basically you set the context dictionary key to be whatever value
subsume	and you can use it later in the template
subsume	but what is this mytag tihng returning?
subsume	as in, why does the templatetag have this value, but the view doesn't?
subsume	why not just pass it in from view
mad_moses	subsume, becauce i use it on all pages and i wont edit all my views
subsume	maybe use a middleware then?
subsume	what's the difference between editing all your views and editing all your templates?
mad_moses	subsume, i never write a middleware
subsume	ok
subsume	welp, you do now.
mad_moses	subsume, i can put mytemplatetag into  my base.html and it will print on all pages
subsume	what is this thing you want to print?
mad_moses	subsume, an attribute of a model
subsume	model.get_attribute doesn't work?
subsume	{{ model.some_method }}
subsume	{% if "3" > model.some_method %} ....
mad_moses	subsume, good idea, i will try, thank you
eric6rm	Hi I have a question about deployment with nginx/apache using SSL
eric6rm	I have nginx recognizing the SSL certificate and passing onto apache
eric6rm	and on Apache, I'm using mod_python to serve Django
eric6rm	I think I'm supposed to somehow pass information from nginx to django so it will pass a secure response
eric6rm	but I'm not sure how to do this
subsume	django doesn't know or care if its SSL
eric6rm	subsume: I was under the impression that if it received a secure request, it would create a secure response
subsume	your webserver is in charge of that
eric6rm	subsume:  what I'm assuming is that, in the Apache virtual host settings, I need to check if the request from nginx is secure, and then pass some info to Django
subsume	Oh I heard you.
subsume	the answer is no
subsume	even the virtual host doesn't care if its 'secure'. it just listens on 443
Liberum	Is there a way to modify the queryset used in a ForeignKey field in the admin depending on the request?
eric6rm	subsume: maybe that's the problem?  I have nginx listening on 443 and passing the request to Apache listening on 8000
subsume	eric6rm: why this complex setup anyhow?
armorsmith42	if I have a model with two foriegnkeys and I instantiate it with two instances of that model, is is supposed to automatically grab the keys of both, or just the first one.?  I seem to be observing the latter.
kennethlove	i keep getting an error about django being unable to load a custom auth backend, but i've disabled that backend, restarted the server several times, and cleared all .pyc files. any help?
subsume	armorsmith42: ...huh?
eric6rm	subsume:  I am trying to make a Django site work with an SSL certificate, and the Django site uses nginx to serve files.  Is that particularly complex?
subsume	eric6rm: i don't understand the relationship between nginx and apache. and i don't understand why you're using mod_python
eric6rm	subsume:  here's the whole story:  I needed to move a Django site onto a Windows IIS server (yeah.. I know :( ).  The only way to get Django to work on Windows, afaik, is to use mod_python.  I use Apache to serve Django and nginx as a reverse proxy, serving static files and redirecting Django-related requests to Apache.
joerg	hi
subsume	i see
armorsmith42	I've instantiated this model  user_ing = UserHasIngredient(user=profile,ingredient=result) and, going through the server transation code in pdb I print user_ing.__dict__, which is {'user_id': 5, '_user_cache': <UserProfile:  >, 'amount': None, 'ingredient_id': None, '_ingredient_cache': <Ingredient: vodka>, 'time': datetime.datetime(2010, 1, 26, 17, 51, 31, 853970), 'units': None, 'id': None}
subsume	welp, that solves it then
joerg	is it easy to extend the admin interface?
armorsmith42	hello joerg and welcome!
subsume	armorsmith42: maybe result is indeed None
joerg	I mean if I use different auth methods with django e.g. LDAP it would be nice if I could manage users there.....stuff like that
joerg	armorsmith42, thanks ;)
armorsmith42	that would indicate that the vodka, which does exist in the database, does not have an id
subsume	armorsmith42: result == None
joerg	I mean.....should I code a django app that can manage ldap users from scratch or try to somehow extend contrib.admin?
armorsmith42	no,  result =  <Ingredient: vodka>
armorsmith42	this would be tragic otherwise
subsume	armorsmith42: does it have a pk?
armorsmith42	ah. no it does not. this indicates that the rabbit hole goes deeper. thank you
Powerplay	is it possible to hide just one of the {{ foo_form|as_uni_form }} fields?
mattmcc	What do the uni-form docs say?
Powerplay	mattmcc, no clear answer here http://github.com/pydanny/django-uni-form/blob/master/docs/usage.txt
Liberum	Does the exact functionality of ModelAdmin.formfield_for_foreignkey not exist for many-to-many fields?
Powerplay	mattmcc, and this doesn't work http://dpaste.com/150930/ I know about the exclude in form option but I; m trying to avoid that and find a method in the template
rozwell	Liberum: if you found that one, i'm not sure how you missed formfield_for_manytomany
Liberum	rozwell: Heh, I guess ticket #11882 would explain - "Documentation missing for django.contrib.admin.ModelAdmin.formfield_for_manytomany" :) Thank you!
DjangoBot	http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/11882
subsume	I've got a unit test which isn't loading a particular fixture, silently. what's probably wrong?
flagg0204	im trying to test wether a transaction is an "UPDATE" or an "INSERT" in my django app.  I think I need to overwrite the save() method for my modelform.  But how can you test if something is an update/insert before calling the super(ModelForm, self).save()?
subsume	flagg0204: background?
flagg0204	subsume - ??
subsume	or not.
flagg0204	subsume - i dont understand the question
subsume	pretend you do.
flagg0204	subsume - and this is helpful why?
subsume	what are you trying to do?
flagg0204	i have a modelform and view to allow me to add and edit objects for that model.  I have a save() method in the modelform.  Im trying to figure out how to test whether a transaction is an update or an insert
synic	flagg0204: if self.id is None, it's an INSERT
flagg0204	synic - the model does not have an id column. it has a foreinkey to another table
synic	oh wait, it's a ModelForm, nevermind.
flagg0204	fk = domain
synic	all models have an id column
mattmcc	obj.pk points at your PK field, whatever its name is.
flagg0204	mattmc - ah isee
flagg0204	so could you do if self.obj.id is None?
flagg0204	for a test
subsume	pk
subsume	not id
subsume	but yes.
flagg0204	if self.obj.pk == None
flagg0204	or if not self.obj.pk
flagg0204	i guess either way works?
subsume	you could do
mattmcc	Er, 'obj' is meant to be replaced with 'whatever your model object is'.
subsume	if self.pk in [None]
mattmcc	ModelForms don't literally have an 'obj' attribute.
flagg0204	mattmc - yeah i got that :)
flagg0204	mattmc - just using it for an example.
flagg0204	ill give that a shot.
flagg0204	thanks
flagg0204	interesting.  well bow django is complainging that my modelForm does not have an attribute pk
sachman64	for adding apps to INSTALLED_APPS, can I do just 'app' instead of 'project.app'?
sachman64	if the project dir is on sys.path
deorbital	hi
deorbital	can someone please enlighten me how this should be used in a form? http://jannisleidel.com/2008/11/autocomplete-form-widget-foreignkey-model-fields/
deorbital	for the life of me i can't figure it out
cmwslw	wouldn't it be taxing on the database to call something like Entry.objects.order_by('blog__name', 'headline')
cmwslw	i'm guessing that in order to sort, the blog for every entry would have to be retrieved to get the name.
cmwslw	or are databases fast at doing these sorts of things
oliland	how do you guys handle mobiles?
oliland	do you override your templates directory when someone arrives at your mobile site?
mattmcc	cmwslw: Depends on the table(s) and indexes.
cmwslw	mattmcc: what if it was just a foreignkey to a model with an IntegerField? I'm deciding if I need to maintain copies of the integer in the model I want to sort to speed it up
cmwslw	keeping a copy is error prone and messy, but if my order_by is really slow it might have to be that way
mattmcc	cmwslw: Well, do an explain plan, see if it is slow.
mattmcc	And maybe indexing differently will help.
__machine	what is currently the best way to replace or extend the User model? i don't just need to add different fields... i need to replace existing fields... username needs a longer max_length and to accept email addresses... and the other CharField should use a subclass of CharField that i have which when represented in a ModelForm will strip leading and trailing white space from the values before validation... ?
dfjoerg	AUTH_PROFILE_MODULE
mattmcc	A custom auth backend will allow you to authenticate users by email instead of username.
lawgon	or by fingerprints
oliland	or with social authentication
__machine	mattmcc: so create my own User class with username, email, firstname, lastname and all other fields i need (using my subclassed CharField) and an fk back to django User model... and use custom auth backend to authenticate and return that user instead?
anteatersa	doesn anyone know how to access request.user in models.py?
mattmcc	anteatersa: Generally, you don't.  Models shouldn't depend on the existence of an HTTP request to function.
mattmcc	That's what views are for.
anteatersa	hmm, good point
anteatersa	will put in admin.py, thanks
mattmcc	http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2008/dec/24/admin/
kennethlove	is it possible to chain model managers? like i have active() that gets items marked as active and published before now. i'd like to have featured() that gets active items that are also featured w/o having to replicate the code of active(). is this possible?
anteatersa	perfect cheers mattmcc
mattmcc	kennethlove: Well, do the functions return querysets?
kennethlove	mattmcc: yes
mattmcc	So, there you go.
symbiotic	sick post
kennethlove	i'm sorry but i need a bit more than that. I've tried doing: return super(Model, self).get_query_set().active().filter(blah blah) but i get errors on get_query_set not having a method active().
mattmcc	Well, if your manager has methods active and published, and you want published to include the active filter, it'd just be 'def published(self): return self.active().filter(...)'
kennethlove	hm, thought i had tried that but i'll give it another shot. thanks

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