| leino | inctor: where do you run into trouble? |
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| Dreakon | leino, he left lol. |
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| Dreakon | Thanks, I'll try the GNOME channel. |
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| leino | ah, I should lern to irc better |
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| mwalling | with dpkg-buildpackage, is there a way to specify the output directory to not be ../ ? my ci system is checking out source into my workspace, and i cant write to the directory above (and the vcs plugin doesnt suppot changing the checkout directory) |
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| Ganneff | no. fix your scripts :) |
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| paultag | haha ouch! |
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| Action: mwalling grumbles |
| tuxcrafter | a2ensite 000-default seems to be doing something else then enabeling /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default is is just wierd |
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| tuxcrafter | why is that? i spent the last 1,5 hours of my live debuggin my setup for strange things |
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| tuxcrafter | it is some symblic to /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
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| paultag | yeah tuxcrafter |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, it's not odd, this was done for a reason |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, the conf was changed from a monolitic httpd.conf to a fragmented directory style setup. It's easiest to understand this way: |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, cd /etc/apache2/ |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, ls |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, note modules-enabled and modules-available |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, when you "install" a module, you similink it from available to enabled, and apache2 includes everything in modules-enabled |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, same with sites-enabled, you can have a ton of files in there. I have 4 on my web server. It makes moving stuff easy :) |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, cool? |
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| tuxcrafter | paultag: no and yes i no they are symbolic links i also use them with a2ensite |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, yup |
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| tuxcrafter | but a2dissite 000-default-settings works fine |
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| tuxcrafter | but a2dissite 000-default |
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| tuxcrafter | does something special |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, that just similinks the file for you |
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| paultag | tuxcrafter, can you pastebin the stdout spew, please? |
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| tuxcrafter | a2dissite 000-default makes a symolic link to default instead of 000-default in the available sites |
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| JonJ | I need some help with the sun java plugin on Debian AMD64. I've installed the sun-plugin packages, made sure that I'm running both a 64bit browser and 64bit plugin. I can see the plugin in about:plugins in iceweasel, but I can't get any java content to load. Anyone got any ideas what could cause this? |
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| dli | JonJ, try icedtea plugin |
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| JonJ | dli: Okey, testing no |
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| JonJ | *now |
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| chealer | JonJ: which Debian suite do you use? |
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| JonJ | chealer: I'm on testing, sorry for not mentioning that |
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| dli | JonJ, apt-get install icedtea6-plugin |
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| chealer | JonJ: which sun-plugin packages? |
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| JonJ | sun-java6-plugin |
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| musca | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056 |
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| JonJ | This is odd.. I installed the openjdk, did update-alternatives and chose suns java(I've done this step before), and now it shows that the sun plugin is working |
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| ml| | dpkg: java ipv6 |
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| dpkg | As of netbase 4.38, net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 is set, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/10/msg00541.html . This currently breaks networking in Java for sun-java6-jdk (openjdk-6 is fixed as of version 6b18~pre1-3), see http://bugs.debian.org/560044 for solutions. In short, sed -i 's/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 1/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0/' /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf ; invoke-rc.d procps restart. |
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| korynd | hi all |
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| korynd | sorry for my english |
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| korynd | please tell me where I can read about installing unstable (Sid) version of Debian |
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| dondelelcaro | korynd: you should install the stable version |
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| korynd | dondelelcaro, I did it, but while updating (apt-get dist-upgrade) I have error with udev |
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| dondelelcaro | korynd: upgrading to what? |
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| dondelelcaro | korynd: and you need to show us the entire error |
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| chris_ | hello |
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| dondelelcaro | (use a paste site to do this) |
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| flays_1 | ls |
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| flays_1 | ping |
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| flays_1 | ls |
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| madled | hello. yesterday i asked about trouble with my second sound card. i try cat /proc/asound/cards and see 2 sound card index 0 (HDA) and 1(SbLive). But HDA do not working! |
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| madled | i have 2 sound cards: Sblive work properly but HDA do not working. What i need to try? |
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| korynd | dondelelcaro, I can't install programm for pasting, system work in virtual machine |
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| dondelelcaro | korynd: if you can't copy and paste or redirect the output to a file or ortherwise generate output that we can look at, there's not much we can do to help you |
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| korynd | also, system use not english. I can show screenshot — http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3659/debianvirtualboxose.png |
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| Glorf | Hi all |
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| Glorf | !dpkg desktop-base |
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| madled | hello. i have g41t-m6 motherboard and 2 sound cards, external - SbLive, and internal HDA Intel VT1705. SbLive work properly but HDA do not working. How i can install this HDA driver most rightly? |
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| madled | i try cat /proc/asound/cards and see 2 sound card index 0 (HDA) and 1(SbLive). But HDA do not working! |
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| Glorf | I downgraded from squeeze to lenny ; so i get back to few packages of netinstall, and then tasksel |
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| Glorf | but, when tasksel try to configure desktop-base, impossible |
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| Glorf | i try with lots of --forceall options with apt-get/aptitude, nothing... So i can't finish to install my log, and i can't apt-get any kind of packages... Any idea ? |
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| jimmy_ | hello i am having some issues with sound in Gnome (Rhythmbox) that i believe is caused by pulseaudio |
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| jimmy_ | sound works in vlc and for gnome errors, but not in Rhythmbox - any ideas? |
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| jimmy_ | and sound works in aplay |
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| diego | Hi, I'm trying to encrypt part of my files, what I want is that when the system boots |
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| diego | it should ask for a password |
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| diego | and run encfs /home/diego/.dir /home/diego/dir for each encrypted dir I set |
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| diego | how can I make that be asked at boottime |
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| jimmy_ | and sound works in iceweasel/chrome - but not rhythmbox - what gives?? |
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| Arrowmaster` | jimmy_: rhythmbox uses gstreamer so try looking up how to configure the gstreamer sinks |
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| jimmy_ | thanks arrowmaster i will have a look into that. what is strange is that when rhythmbox is open, it is listed the Applications tab of the Gnome Sound Preferences, wheras the other applications (Such as VLC) do not... |
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| Arrowmaster` | jimmy_: i have no clue what applications tab you are talking about (sounds pulse specific maybe) but look for 'Multimedia Systems Selector' in system preferences |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: http://yfrog.com/0zscreenshotsoundpreferenp |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: not sure if that is pulseaudio or a built in gnome thing.. |
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| Arrowmaster | has to be pulse |
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| Arrowmaster | since pulse i the only thing i know of that lets you change the volume on a per application basis |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: ok it must be. i have managed to open multimedia systems selector (gstreamer-properties) and it allows me to choose and test various sound system plugins for output |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: however choosing oss or alsa and if i attempt to play something in rythmbox i dont get sound - despite the fact that the test in gstreamer-properties works for these plugins |
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| Arrowmaster | that default audio output should be set to auto or pulse or something, but i do know that rhythembox does everything through gstreamer |
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| Arrowmaster | but ive never used pulse so i dont know what it should be set as to work |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: should i just get rid of pulseaudio? i dont think i have a need for it. is there any impact to not having it? |
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| Arrowmaster | pulse isnt even installed in debian by default so no theres no impacts to not having it |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: :) ok its gone now and i have sound back in rythmbox. so right now i am using just ALSA for all audio? |
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| Arrowmaster | probably |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: lol sound in linux is confusing... what is the difference between gstreamer and alsa? |
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| Arrowmaster | gstreamer is a multimedia framework, think of it like directshow on windows |
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| fenix | oi |
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| fenix | oiiiiiiii |
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| fenix | fgds |
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| Arrowmaster | gstreamer has to connect to a sound system at the end to actually output any sound so either alsa pulse oss or one of the others |
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| ddz | heya |
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| ddz | im running the test build of debian and just upgraded.. in my terminal there is now a red line, something about groups |
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| ddz | anyone know how i can disable it? |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: ahhh ok, so gstreamer is a layer between the application and the sound system |
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| jimmy_ | and the sound system is a layer between the output system and the soundcard driver? |
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| ddz | nvm im just changing to xterm |
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| Arrowmaster | in alsa's case it is the soundcard driver |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: i see, well i must be off. thanks for the info and the help to get my audio working again! :) |
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| Arrowmaster | jimmy_: here see the image from the notorious rant from adobes linux flash developer about how 'linux sound is too complex' http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/linuxaudio.png |
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| jimmy_ | arrowmaster: hahah that pretty much sums it up doesnt it! no wonder im confused |
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| Arrowmaster | most of those nobody would ever use though |
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| Arrowmaster | but yeah you can follow the gstreamer path when using pulse and see it goes gstreamer->pulse->alsa->actual hardware |
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| jimmy_ | cool cool |
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| mochan | users |
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| mochan | quit |
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| mochan | I have a question about ssh. Recently I get the message 'write failed: broken pipe' after using ssh for a random amount of time (a few minutes) using the computer in my office from my laptop at home. Could this be some intermediary computer or my internet provider filtering ssh packages? |
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| paultag | mochan, ssh has a timeout feature |
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| paultag | mochan, I think you can disable it serverside, or configure the client to send keepalive packets or something |
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| paultag | mochan, it helps if you forget to logout or something |
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| mochan | paultag, Yes, but I have made no change in the sshd server configuration and the time to failure varies a lot |
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| paultag | mochan, it should break off the socket after about 30 minutes or so |
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| paultag | mochan, if it's doing that before about 30 minutes, it could be a connection issue that breaks the socket |
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| paultag | mochan, anywhere from the NIC, to the Router to the Modem to the server |
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| paultag | mochan, ISPs would not bother to filter SSH traffic, it's so minute and the guys who do the filter rules use ssh too :) |
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| mochan | paultag, This morning the failures took about 1 minute. My other question is, if some intermediary is responsible, is there a tool to find out who is the culprit. |
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| paultag | mochan, not really. I would look to your network card ( esp if you are wireless ). Try running a lot of basic traffic internally to the network and see if you loose packets or have network failure |
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| paultag | otherwise it's outside your network |
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| mochan | paultag, This morning I phoned my internet provider and they told me that port 22 is 'closed' for security reasons. I'm using another port since several months ago, but port 22 used to work fine also. |
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| paultag | mochan, who is your ISP? |
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| paultag | doh |
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| paultag | /whois |
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| mochan | paultag, OK. I'll try testing my card. I recently changed the driver since there was some change in the debian packages. |
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| paultag | mochan, aye. That sucks :( |
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| mochan | paultag, My ISP is cablemas from Cuernavaca, in Mexico |
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| paultag | Cablevision :) |
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| paultag | yup |
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| paultag | Cablevision SA de CV |
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| paultag | nothing I could find indicates they are filtering, but it's not out of the question mochan |
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| mochan | paultag, Not Cablevision, but a similar company. Cablevision doesn't operate in Cuernavaca |
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| paultag | mochan, your IP is owned by Cablevision SA de CV |
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| mochan | paultag, Currently I not at my home. At this moment I am using Cablevision. So, how did you find out they are not filtering? |
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| paultag | I did a google search for people whining mochan |
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| paultag | usually the best indicator |
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| mochan | paultag, Ha. The problem is that maybe there are not too many ssh users in Mexico |
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| paultag | mochan, that is always true. but even one person would show up |
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| mochan | paultag, I googled cablemas and ssh but didn't find my complain. Maybe the problem lies after the packages leave their control. Traceroute shows there are usually 15 to 25 hops from my home to my office (3 miles away). |
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| paultag | mochan, could be. Try SSHing in the intranet and see if it drops |
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| paultag | mochan, if it does, your computer has problems |
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| paultag | mochan, otherwise, it is most likely outside the internal network |
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| mochan | paultag, The route goes all around Mexico, and sometimes it includes several american cities. |
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| mochan | paultag, OK. I'll try that tomorrow. |
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| CoolAzura | I get an error with installing samba. This is what I get "/var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postrm: line 22: update-inetd: command not found. I try to install update-inetd and it tells me that I have unmet dependencies and to run "apt-get -f install". When I do it attempts to install samba with the same error. Anyone know what's wrong? |
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| mochan | paultag, Thanks. |
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| paultag | sure mochan |
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| paultag | CoolAzura, try apt-get install update-inetd |
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| paultag | Oh right |
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| paultag | unmet deps |
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| CoolAzura | paultag, It tells me I have unmet deps.. |
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| CoolAzura | yeah |
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| paultag | CoolAzura, what deps? |
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| paultag | it depends on debconf >= 0.5 or debconf 2 |
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| paultag | libfile-copy-recursive-perl |
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| paultag | and libfile-temp-perl |
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| paultag | try installing those CoolAzura |
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| CoolAzura | alright |
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| CoolAzura | is there way to copy and paste with putty? |
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| abrotman | you might want to try using aptitude |
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| paultag | right click CoolAzura |
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| paultag | abrotman, not anymore, apt-get stole the aptitude dep handling |
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| abrotman | uhm .. use aptitude |
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| larsie | Possible to edit binary file before flashing mainboard? We have a problem with NVRAM. Mobo resets its every time, and it freezes everytime we try to flash it. |
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| abrotman | paultag: it's about the problem solving .. not the 'dep handling' |
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| paultag | abrotman, those are the same thing/ |
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| abrotman | no they are not |
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| CoolAzura | Is there a way to cancel the last apt-get upgrade? because this happened after I tried it |
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| CoolAzura | if I could cancel I could then tell it to install update-inetd before samba |
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| CoolAzura | This is what I get with from: apt-get install update-inetd http://pastebin.org/268905 and from: apt-get -f install http://pastebin.org/268904 |
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| abrotman | CoolAzura: what are your sources.list ? |
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| CoolAzura | it's pretty small, but let me check something someone just told me to use: dpkg --configure -a |
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| CoolAzura | hmmm |
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| CoolAzura | it worked |
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| abrotman | CoolAzura: are you upgrading from sarge to etch ? |
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| CoolAzura | slightly. |
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| CoolAzura | using xebian |
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| abrotman | oh ffs .. no wonder it's broken |
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| CoolAzura | just confiyeah |
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| CoolAzura | yeah* |
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| CoolAzura | but i couldn't find a better one to use |
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| CoolAzura | but it's fixed now :) |
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| abrotman | how about a real computer? |
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| CoolAzura | i could.. but then i'd use ubuntu |
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| abrotman | oh well .. have fun |
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| CoolAzura | i wasn't using my xbox anyways.. so i figured might as well setup some server stuff |
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| CoolAzura | ty :) |
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| CoolAzura | thanks for trying to help |
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| manuy | hi all |
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| sean | is debian better than ubuntu |
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| sean | SPEAK NOOBS |
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| sean | why use debian not ubuntu |
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| abrotman | great way to get answers ... |
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| sean | what |
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| phrosty | sean: because debian sorts before ubuntu |
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| sean | nah ubuntu owns |
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| abrotman | sean: do you have a Debian related question ? |
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| abrotman | and "Debian vs Ubuntu" is not a topic for this channel |
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| sean | any good linux books? |
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