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cmyers_I am having trouble getting ctrl+alt+backspace to kill my X.  Googling has reported that this feature was intentionally, blasphemously, broken.  All attempts to fix it have failed.  Adding "DontZap" to xorg.conf failed.  Changing xmodmap for key 22 has failed.  Can anyone advise how to get this working?  Does anyone have it working on debian squeeze?
themill!dontzap
dpkgTo disable termination of your X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace in Lenny, place  Option "DontZap" "on"  within the ServerFlags section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, see xorg.conf(5).  Squeeze users: server zapping is not enabled by default.  To enable, execute "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answer Yes when asked if Ctrl+Alt+Backspace can terminate the X server.
cmyers_themill: thanks, trying that
Action: cmyers_ is infuriated googling did not find this solution
abrotmanchealer: i meant you've been warned before about using !ops to get us to change the topic for things that probably shouldn't be there
abrotmanchealer: change the <debian news> factoid if you want to add something.  That allows normal channel users to kind of keep a FAQ for themselves without needing an op to change the topic
cmyers_themill: That didn't work.
themill*shrug* claimed to work... never played with it myself
cmyers_does not work =(
cmyers_argh
cmyers_showkeys is showing keycode 27, then 8, when I press ctrl+alt+backspace.
cmyers_I don't think that is right.
cmyers_wtf is going on? =(
cmyers_dpkg: dontzap is not the answer, instead run `setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp`
dpkg...but dontzap is already something else...
cmyers_can someone help me fix dpkg?  I figured out hte real answer.  dontzap seems to have no effect, running the above setxkbmap cmd is the actual solution.
cmyers_!dontzap
dpkgfrom memory, dontzap is On squeeze and newer, to enable ctrl+alt+backspace killing X, run `setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp`, on debian before squeeze To disable termination of X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, place Option "DontZap" "on"  within the ServerFlags section of your xorg.conf file, see xorg.conf(5).  To enable, execute "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answer Yes when asked.
cmyers_bam.  correct now.
gamambelanyone here familiar with bridging networks? i have tried for several hours now to get network to work on my KVM/proxmox/debian server, but the ISP configuration confuses me
gamambeli'd be grateful for any help , you can find my config at http://pastebin.ca/1882489
hermockbonjour je n'arrive pas a lire un dvd avec vlc ou mplayer ..... je suspecte que le lecteur n'arrive pas a la monter car il doit y avoir un soft qui l'automount
qq-!fr
dpkgPour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net.  Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
hermocksorry I can speak english too
hermockI have an issue , my vlc player is failing to read my dvd and i suspect that another resource is locking my dvd
qq-!dvd playback
dpkgTo play DVDs, you need some media playing software (ask me about <dvd> for some suggestions on viewers).  You will also need the libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 packages installed, some of which are in <debian-multimedia.org> (see <libdvdcss>).  You will also need to set a region on your DVD player - if you have never done so before - using regionset.  Also ask me about <dvd playback troubleshooting>.
chealerabrotman: I don't remember that, no. I don't see how <debian news> would help
hermockis dpkg a bot ?
oldhermock: Yes.
hermockok i'll try it
rudi_sBtw., is setting a region really necessary? I can play DVDs fine and have never done it.
themillrudi_s: I certainly had to do so
rudi_sthemill: Interesting.
qq-pn router a get a classic "iptables  -A POSTROUTING -p tcp -t nat -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE" , nothing else (yes 1 to ip_forward)
qq-and dhcp on router works correct (all lan machines get local IP)
qq-s/ pn/on
qq- hi, any idea why my router (a dedicated pc) let connect to external net _only one_  lan pc ?
slushqq-: you don't need masquerade.. with ip_forward enabled you should be able to ping outside your router
qq-slush, will try , thanks
hajenQuestion: I have a custom-built kernel module for my computer. When apt installed a new kernel image yesterday, it broke that module. Will I have to compile the module once for each new linux version, using the new headers or is there a simpler way?
hajenOK, it's not 'custom' per se but is only distributed in source form
chealerhajen: if you don't have pre-built modules, you'll have to build, yes,
hajenOK, thanks chealer. That's too bad. Debian should carry the broadcom non-free drivers in their apt repository.
slushthey shouldn't
simonrvnum, no. it's non-free. they can't.
gsimmonshajen: If you're referring to the vendor's "hybrid" wireless LAN driver, this is already packaged as broadcam-sta ; /msg dpkg wl
simonrvnif you have an issue with that, bug broadcom, or switch distro.
nN0bdyi'm running from a debian live cd with gnome, but i want to give kde a try, too, which is quite easy by installing it, too and selecting one of them at logon, but as i'm running a live system, i cannot shut down and reboot, nor can i really log in, so my question is how i can manually end gnome and start kde without rebooing...?
nikotinohola
nikotinohay alguein que entienda
jasper!es
dpkgEste canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian.  Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
nikotino#debian-es /join
nikotino#debian-es
nikotinodebian-es /join
nikotinodebian-es
jaspernikotino: you type "/join debian-es
jasperwithout "
nikotinodonde ando
jasperéste es el canal lxde
jasperi el uso de Google traducir, lo siento si mal español
nikotinois there a spanish chatroom?
nikotinois there a chatroom in spanish?
jasperthe only one i am aware of is debian-es
nikotinothanks
nicholasis it possible to get a single bugs report to belong to *two* packages?
hermockdpkg is pretty good thanks, I could easily get VLC working and I saw 300 :)
dpkgYou are person #1 to send an unparseable request, hermock
jasperslaps dpkg you gaggling bag of bolts
jaspercackle*
bzednicholas: package1;package2
nicholasbzed: wonderful, thank you!
bzednicholas: but you rarely need that, usually you want tosmething like cloning the bug and reassigning the clone or something like that
bzedbah I'm writing glibberish. time to go to bed...
nicholasbzed: valgrind is unusable because of changes in ld.so. it's not entirely the fault of either side, and there's two possible fixes.
nicholasi just sorta want in on both their radars
nicholaswant *it
nicholasack! did snapshot.debian.net stop archiving?!
gsimmonsnicholas: For some time now.  You want snapshot.debian.org instead.
nicholasgsimmons: oh fantastic. thank you!
nicholasbzed: 'reassign 585809 valgrind;libc6' didn't work :(
DreakonHey guys, is it possible to make a nautilus script in GNOME to function where you right click a folder and it opens a random file in said folder?
RJHi.
RJIs anyone here?
nicholasno
nicholas;)
RJhaha
RJthere's over 100 people on the whois list, but nobody is talking. Anyway, I was thinking of switching to debian, but I had some questions
jasper!anyone
dpkgPlease do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.  Instead, ask your real question.  (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.)  See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
jasper:)
RJI'm just starting to get into computers again, and have been using Ubuntu, but it's starting to look like an iPhone and I can't stand Apple. Other than typical computer usage (email, net, office), I'm also teaching myself python which doesn't work so well with Ubuntu (partially due to the poor nvidia support). Considering this, would Debian be a good choice for me?
nicholasi'm terrified that nvidia support is impacting your learning of python
RJwell, eventually i want to get into pygame. I'm not there yet, but I'm trying to look ahead.
nicholasi've long since long track of what debian's default desktop looks like, but i know ubuntu has customized theirs heavily
RJI have an nvidia card, though, and have frequent enough crashes when bliting.
nicholasstrange. are they using nouveau perhaps?
nicholasi still use the proprietary driver, manually installed on top of my debian system. works great for me.
RJi've heard that term referenced in the newest version, though I don't know what it is. I'm still quite a beginner.
nicholasit's a new driver for nvidia cards, written outside of nvidia
RJI haven't really done much with computers for quite a few years now. everything i knew is pretty much out of date (and was more windows oriented anyway)
RJi'm not that great with manual installs. the terminal is not very intuitive to me.
nicholasfair enough.  i don't think i'm capable of answering the question of how good a match debian is for you. i've had debian since '99 and linux since '94. the values i see in debian are focussed in a completely different place (i like the extensive policy manual and documentation)
RJcare to elaborate?
nicholasthe debian policy manual describes how debian packages are to be prepared, http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#policy
nicholasunlike the packaging manual which is just 'how to build a package' it covers a lot of the design of debian as a system, broken down into requirements on the individual packages.
nicholasthere's also lots of user documentation: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals , if you're the sort who really likes to read.
nicholasdebian installation guide and debian reference are excellent
RJyeah, this is a bit over my head. i barely understand (assuming i do) what packages really are, nevermind their requirements (unless you mean system requirements).
nicholasno, i don't mean system requirements.
RJso, yeah, a bit over my head.
gamambelRJ: linux and especially debian are very time consuming
nicholasindeed, i wouldn't worry about that.
gamambelyou have to know that pretty much nothing works out of the box
nicholasgamambel: what?
gamambelit's great to get to know you're computer, but if you want something that "just works" you might want to stay with win/mac
nicholasabout as much will work out of the box as it did on ubuntu for instance
jasper_that is the price of freedom
Xenguygamambel: you're in this channel, advocating proprietary OSs
gamambelno
Xenguy?
Xenguyoh
gamambeli am in this channel but i'm still allowed to say my opinion
Xenguysure enough
RJwell, i wouldn't mind learning how to get things to work, but i have no clue where to start. with ubuntu problems were usually solved by going to the forums, explaining my problem, and they'd tell me what to type in the terminal. I don't feel like I was really learning anything, though.
RJthat's partly why i want to switch. I'd like to do some dev work of my own, but how can i expect to do so if i can't even understand my OS?
nicholasit's funny because windows stopped "just working" for me long, long ago ;)
jasper_!windows
dpkg"PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work."  Support for Microsoft Windows operating systems is available at ##windows on irc.freenode.net.
gamambelnicholas: yeah that's why most of you guys have so much trouble understanding regular users
Xenguyheh, so true
gamambelas in "I'm just starting to get into computers again"
XenguyRJ: truthfully, I find that debian mostly just works...
nicholaswhich is why i already explicitly said i don't think i can really help evaluate in this case!
gamambelafter all, i'm pretty pissed at the moment, don't take it personally
XenguyRJ: I stick with 'stable' these days, and life is pretty good :-)
gamambeli've been trying to get some pretty basic stuff running for three days, haven't slept in two because of a deadline, and it all takes SO LONG
nicholasRJ: that's a good observation, actually. if you want to learn more about what's going on behind the scenes, the documentation (and books) will help more than anything on the computer
nicholasRJ: it's a little like how astronomy isn't actually about the telescopes
Xenguydebian works good enough that I'm not tempted to leave :-)
Xenguythere
nicholasfor the most part, the documentation that comes with the computer (like linux's 'man pages') will assume you already have a certain level of proficiency. it's particularly annoying because they're content-rich yet inaccessible.
RJsorry...d/c...anyway, I was saying that the bottom line is that I don't know where to start (from scratch).
rayii
icebreakerguys, how can Install w32codecs? i'm trying to install but it's not on my repository debian-multimedia, where is it?
jasper_icebreaker: what are you trying to do?
icebreakeri'm trying to install w32codecs, but it's not on my repository and sorry about my english, it's not very good, i know!
gsimmonsicebreaker: The package is now located in Debian Multimedia's non-free section ; /msg dpkg dmm
icebreakerooowww m thanks, so i will put deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable non-free on my source.list right?
gsimmonsicebreaker: s/stable non-free/lenny main non-free/ (you may also want to install packages available in main)
icebreakergsimmons:  thank guy...
qq-slush, still here ?
qq-3-rd day to forward  interfaces go get net on my router , no joy  
adamamy Firefox error console says my lenny webserver is potentially vulnerable to CVE-2009-3555 - http://www.debian.org/security/2009/dsa-1934 says I need apache2 2.2.9-10+lenny6 but the server has 2.2.9-10+lenny7 ...??
Pikihi, KDE user here. when trying to play an Ogg Vorbis or MP3 in a xine-based player like Amarok, the file stutters (kind of like a scratched CD or broken record), but when using mplayer, the file plays normally -- at least until the very end of the file, where it stutters. any help much appreciated
Pikii guess i should mention this is on lenny 5.0.4 :-)
Pikiand on a fully up-to-date system as of a few minutes ago
Guest953I appear to be in 'dll hell' here ... help, please. 'g++: Depends: g++-4.4 (>= 4.4.3-1) but it is not going to be installed'
Guest953from: apt-get install build-essential g++
jm_apt-cache policy 'g++-4.4'
Guest953jm_: Thanks. Working on pastebin here.
Pikisince we have a few new faces here, i'll re-explain the problem i'm having: i'm a KDE user on lenny 5.0.4 updated as of a few minutes ago. xine-based players like amarok stutter like a scratched CD on audio files (ogg vorbis/mp3) while mplayer plays fine but stutters on the end of the file
dbvoliohi
dbvolioi have a problem
dbvoliowho is familiar with centova??
Guest953jm_: Hold the thought. Updates are now present that weren't available when last I looked. Perhaps something's changed. I'll 'write' again when I've investigated a bit more.
dbvoliosomeone
dbvolioknows how centova works?
dbvoliobecause i want to use it and it just won't install
Pikidbvolio: i'm not familiar with it, but if you explaint he error you're getting, i'm sure taht someone will help (eventually)
Pikiwow, i need to re-take my typing classes :-)
dbvolioyes
dbvoliook
dbvolioso
dbvoliofor installing centova i followed the pdf manual the centova has
Guest953build-essential g++ circle (4.4 <-> 4.3?) still present. http://paste.debian.net/77313/ Help, please.
dbvolioi have installed all the dependecyes including ioncube loader which is working
dbvolioso
dbvoliowhen i should type ./install.sh
dbvolioit says that ioncube must be installed
dbvoliothat is the error
PikiGuest953: i think build-essential might need to be updated for the new g++. it's looking for 4.4.3, but only 4.4.4 is available.
Pikidbvolio: it seems that centova is looking for ioncude in a different place than it is installed. i've never done scripting with .sh files before, but you might be able to edit it to look for ioncube where it's actually installed
Pikibut i'd recommend waiting for a more experienced user help you before trying to do the editing
Guest953Piki: ok, but if I just try to get g++ alone, same problem. Getting closer though (in the sense of finding the real culprit.) But I'm still lost. http://paste.debian.net/77314/
jm_Guest953: what happens if you use aptitude instead of apt-get? I also forgot to ask about apt-cache policy output for g++
jm_Guest953: you have a mix of testing and unstable, why?
Guest953jm_: apt-cache policy at top of last pastebin. aptitude worse, and what started me down this road: aptitude search aptitude returns: aptitude: symbol lookup error: aptitude: undefined symbol: sqlite3_db_mutex. Why the heck sqlite is involved at all with aptitude is just beyond me.
dbvolionot the editing of ioncube
jm_Guest953: ahh you're the sqlite3 feller from last week?
dbvolioioncube is a php loader
dbvolioit's a decryptor
Guest953jm_: Hey!
dbvoliocentova installes shoutcast and then the rest of the script
Guest953jm_: Three steps forward, 14 1/2 back.
dbvoliothat's why i need ./install.sh
Guest953jm_: Nice to know I'm recognizable! Hey, it's that stupid 'sqlite3 feller' again! :-)
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