| jordanm | sloosh: care to elaborate? (such as pasting the error) |
| jordanm | !bat |
| dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| themill | ouch |
| themill | see if you can find/download libc6_*.deb and then from outside the chroot, "dpkg -x /path/to/libc6*.deb /path/to/the/install" |
| cesurasean | what is the package name for inetd? |
| locklace | cesurasean: aptitude search inetd |
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| carnage | hey, i'm trying to do this usb install again, i setup the usb stick exactly like it says in the manual (ch4s03) and i'm still getting an error when it goes searching for the cdrom which appears to be mounted from /dev/loop0 on /cdrom according to df |
| carnage | the df output also has this line in it though inbetween the tempfs and /dev/loop0 lines: df: /hd-media: Input/output error |
| carnage | which is, i assume, why i get a cdrom-retriever: error: Unable to find 'pool/main/l/lvm2/lvm2-udeb-2.02.39-7_i386.udeb'. error |
| carnage | because when i try to go looking for that file in the emergency console i get input/output errors from ls |
| carnage | and the two errors in the debug screen are: kernel isofs: unable to reade i-node block |
| carnage | and an anna warning package retrieval failed |
| XayOn | carnage: looks like a broken iso for me. |
| carnage | damn |
| carnage | i don't really want to download another one of those |
| carnage | so big |
| jordanm | its only 150mb |
| carnage | this one is 650 or so |
| jordanm | you can't use that for USB install |
| carnage | really? the guide says you can |
| jordanm | only the business card or netinst CDs iirc, if you are following the official guide |
| jordanm | !ig |
| dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| carnage | If you used an hd-media image, you should now copy a Debian ISO image (businesscard, netinst or full CD image; be sure to select one that fits) onto the stick. |
| carnage | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| carnage | the only other thing i can think of is a mismatch between the installer and the iso... i guess that's what you mean too eh... it also says here: The installation image and the CD image must be based on the same release of debian-installer. |
| jordanm | carnage: "After that, mount the USB memory stick (mount /dev/sdX /mnt), which will now have a FAT filesystem on it, and copy a Debian netinst or businesscard ISO image to it. Unmount the stick (umount /mnt) and you are done." |
| carnage | i'm wondering how i'd determine if they are the same |
| carnage | it says multiple times in the document that it can also use a full cd image |
| jordanm | the guide seems to contradict itself. I had always thought it was netinst or businesscard only, perhaps you should try just to see |
| carnage | alright, i will |
| carnage | what's the difference between businesscard and netinstall anyway? |
| carnage | all i really need is the base system and wifi support i guess |
| jordanm | carnage: sorry, I see now, you can only use the full cd if you follow "the flexible way" instead of "the easy way" |
| carnage | yeah, i did 'the flexible way' |
| jordanm | carnage: the netinst contains everything needed to install a base system. buisnesscard only includes the installer |
| carnage | but i'm thinking i still might try the business card or the netinst seeing as how i'm not sure what else to try next :p |
| carnage | alright, netinst it is |
| astronut | audio works on my system normally, but after creating a new user, adding them to the audio group and copying over my .asoundrc, this user gets "alsa-lib: pcm_dmix.c:977:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore" |
| astronut | lsof shows there don't seem to be any handles...any pointers |
| Objection | Hello, I am currently using Debian Squeeze 64bit. I am wondering whether I should use the 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 or 2.6.32-3-amd64 kernel? |
| craigevil | Objection: 2.6.32-3-amd64 , the trunk kernels had issues |
| Objection | craigevil, Ah ok thanks. |
| astronut | ok, it just seemd to have resolved itself... |
| abraxus | hi |
| Objection | Bye |
| deavid | i'm having several problems with my 1st hard drive: at firts it seems to work perfectly, it runs all the OS... but after time, the system gets frozen for minutes, after that seems to work. Several times I/O error gets printed onto tty0... |
| petemc | deavid: check dmesg/syslog/messages |
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| deavid | i believed that I have to change my hard disk, but there is something bizarre: Whenever I check for bad blocks, I cant find any |
| deavid | from a liveCD the drive seems to work |
| petemc | if the drive supports it you could try smartmontools |
| valdyn | id rather believe badblocks than smartmontools |
| koollman | I wouldn't. they don't test the same things |
| deavid | there is something in messages |
| ryan22 | is the drive making weird griding noises? |
| valdyn | deavid: are you sure that those io errors are even related to the harddisk? |
| deavid | no |
| deavid | valdyn: the I/O errors points to sda, so yes |
| deavid | but i'm not sure if the problem it's really the hard drive |
| ryan22 | it could be ram too |
| valdyn | i get those from an overheating southbridge on an usb disk |
| valdyn | ( -> doesnt need to be disk related ) |
| deavid | seems overheating too |
| deavid | because it gets worse when its hot |
| valdyn | and that southbridge is broken by design, not because my case is venilated badly |
| deavid | this is a part of messages log: http://pastebin.com/45eZ7S9S |
| deavid | after "16:46:26" i had to reboot, the system was inusable |
| deavid | i'm running kde4, and the KDE button was lost, the desktop unresposive, etc.. |
| ryan22 | you could try laptop-mode-tools to tweak the hd usage |
| ryan22 | to reduce the hd accesses |
| valdyn | deavid: i would open the case and rerun the tests: sometimes thats enough to remove any heat problem |
| deavid | valdyn: the case is already open, and the test were done with the case closed first and later done again opened |
| valdyn | deavid: I see |
| deavid | the results are very similar, probably it gives an extra bit of time before it gets frozen |
| valdyn | M/B Temp: +63.0°C vs CPU Temp: +46.0°C |
| valdyn | deavid: can be alot of issues, broken psu for one, thats hard to diagnose |
| ryan22 | deavid: proably your best option is regulating hd accessing via laptop-mode-tools |
| ryan22 | at least until you can fix the hardware |
| deavid | ryan22: thanks for the hint, i want to try it now |
| ryan22 | deavid: good guide: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Laptop-mode-tools |
| ryan22 | the config file is very well commented, just make sure you set it to take effect if your computer is connected via ac |
| stuckey | hi |
| stuckey | how do I get chinese fonts? |
| grummund | Hi, anyone have an idea how to redirect serial port comms to a *listening* tcp socket on the same machine? |
| Action: grummund is considering netcat but wonders what else... |
| deavid | it ocurred again: http://pastebin.com/x53r7trj i have to reboot now :-( |
| ryan22 | deavid: try a memtest too |
| amphi | deavid: traumatic indeed ;) |
| ryan22 | deavid: ive had i/o problems that appeared to be caused by the hd, but were really cause by mismatched ram |
| ryan22 | the mobo was just really picky :P |
| mjt | mismatched? |
| ryan22 | mjt: i used a 533 mhz ram stick in a atom/ion mobo that required a 800 mhz ram |
| ryan22 | the ion mobos are REALLY picky about ram speed and voltage |
| mjt | all sane mobos will read the eeprom on the module and set up speed accordingly |
| mjt | but it is a bit more tricker if you try dual-channel config with different modules |
| petemc | grummund: socat |
| mjt | but ok, i see |
| ryan22 | mjt: this was signle channel. its cause the graphics chip has strict requirements. the system would boot fine, but video wouldnt play |
| ryan22 | ions boards are a pain |
| mjt | it's difficult to find non-800MHz modules nowadays, too :) |
| ryan22 | if you can, a 512 MB 533 mhz stick is $13 |
| ryan22 | ya i cheaped out (it was kingston) |
| mjt | i tried to find a 512Mb one for my diskless x terminal (also on atom). Ended up buying 2Gb 800MGz to replace an 1Gb 533MHz in laptop ;) |
| ryan22 | mjt: im still disappointed that ram has actually gone up in price over the last 2 years |
| carles | hi, is this the right place to ask a question about the local host name in Debian 5? |
| mjt | yes carles |
| carles | great, I have checked everything online and couldnt find an answer: I have set my local host name in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname |
| carles | I have checked that /etc/nsswitch.conf uses hosts: files dns |
| carles | but still, host can't resolve my hostname |
| carles | so my hostname is zonalo |
| carles | ping zonalo works fine |
| carles | but host zonalo returns nxdomain |
| petemc | host checks dns |
| mjt | actually not only dns |
| mjt | but generally dns does not deal with bare names without dots |
| petemc | man host gives -- host - DNS lookup utility |
| mjt | ok, i stand corrected. there's /etc/host.conf to control that somewhat |
| mjt | petemc: see order in host.conf. i'm not sure if host utility uses that conffile. |
| carles | done that |
| koollman | carles: hosts make a dns check. it wouldn't check what you are trying to verify |
| carles | order hosts, bind |
| koollman | getent hosts yourhost |
| koollman | would be the easiest way I can think of |
| carles | so hosts doesn't use /etc/hosts at all? |
| carles | getent works fine: 127.0.1.1 zonalo zonalo.local zonalo.localdomain |
| carles | but host doesn't |
| koollman | sure. |
| koollman | as I said, host make a dns request. it would be only the 'bind' part of the configuration. it will not read /etc/hosts |
| mjt | s/bind/dns/ for nsswitch.conf |
| koollman | getent will do the request as the OS does. reading the config, using the proper calls, and all |
| carles | and hosts will go directly to a DNS server then? |
| koollman | yes |
| carles | skipping the local conf files? |
| carles | ok |
| carles | mjt: my nsswitch.conf: |
| carles | hosts: files dns |
| mjt | skipping local /etc/hosts, not local conf files. |
| koollman | well, different files. |
| carles | ok, understood |
| koollman | the 'host' tool will just read /etc/resolv.conf :) |
| carles | which is why I see a dns request that fails, since my dns server doesn't know about my hostname |
| carles | and why the program I am trying to run is failing, because it must use a dns request directly |
| carles | instead of doing whatever ping is doing, which uses /etc/hosts |
| mjt | which program it is? |
| carles | rabbitmq |
| carles | Error: unable to connect to node rabbit@zonalo: nodedown |
| carles | I assume they're doing a dns lookup for zonalo instead of using gethostbyname() (which I assume reads /etc/hosts) |
| nawaf | hello |
| mjt | i'm not sure if it uses dns directly. there's no need to, unless, well, unless it us using something more than A/PTR records or wants to resolve many names asyncronously |
| nawaf | anybody is here |
| nawaf | how are u |
| carles | that is what is puzzling me actually, why would they use dns directly |
| locklace | nawaf: lots of debian users in saudi arabia? |
| mjt | carles: i you can try using strace - quite good debugging tool |
| mjt | heh. |
| carles | mjt: thanks, I'll give that a try |
| carles | koollman: thanks for your help |
| mjt | especially look at ECONNREFUSED errors in strace output - my wild guess is that your server isn't running... |
| carles | mjt: ok, will check that |
| debacle | hi all, can anyone help me with backport ? I'm trying to install kernel 2.6.32 ... but i got this errors http://debian.pastebin.com/M8uhiQu1 |
| m42 | debacle, maybe trying to install udev also will solve that issue.... |
| themill | debacle: install the "linux-image-amd64" package from bpo instead (it will install the bpo.3 kernel not the bpo.4 kernel) |
| deavid | ryan22: thanks! now with that the problem almost dissapered... there remains something, when it tries to save syslog entries and sync. but there is something good: the system doesn't freeze :-D :-D |
| ryan22 | lol no prob |
| ryan22 | it also makes your system much quieter |
| ryan22 | as the hd is usually the noisiest thing in the computer nowadays |
| koollman | ,9 |
| debacle | themill: i got this error (quite the same) http://debian.pastebin.com/yujdjfVr |
| themill | debacle: you probably want to get rid of linux-base |
| debacle | themill: i've used this command aptitude -t lenny-backports reinstall linux-image-amd64 is it ok ? |
| themill | debacle: aptitude -t lenny-backports reinstall linux-image-amd64 linux-base_ |
| themill | (the _ at the end is deliberate) |
| Action: jordanm must have missed _ in the manual |
| debacle | themill: it seems to work ! |
| themill | \o/ |
| themill | jordanm: that is actually in the manual ;) much of aptitude's power isn't, but that is! |
| nima_ | hi, i install xfce distro on my lenovo netbook s10-3 when i right click on desktop xfdesltop cpu usage = 100% for 15 sec or more what i can for fix this prob? |
| nima_ | hi, i install xfce distro on my lenovo netbook s10-3 when i right click on desktop xfdesktop cpu usage = 100% for 15 sec or more what i can for fix this prob? |
| ryan22 | debian stable has an older version of xfce4 that may not be optimized |
| ryan22 | you can try backports |
| ryan22 | !backports |
| dpkg | [backport] a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/ . Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| allyourbass | nima, how much memory do you have? is there a lot of HDD activity as well? |
| jordanm | I still use the older packages just fine... |
| nima_ | allyourbass, 1 GB of ram |
| Action: jordanm debated upgrading xfce4 to backports but did not because of the machine being in production |
| ryan22 | jordanm: they dont have power manager. which makes it quite useless on a laptop |
| jordanm | nima_: what version of debian? |
| jordanm | ryan22: ah. luckily doesn't effect me |
| nima_ | jordanm, debian GNU/Linux 2.6.32 |
| jordanm | nima_: alright, so now its narrowed down to 3 versions... |
| jordanm | !version |
| dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| nima_ | jordanm, squeez |
| jordanm | nima_: so essentially opening up the menu is slow and very CPU intensive? |
| nima_ | jordanm, i use top command in terminal and show me fxdesktop cpu usage = 100 % for 15 sec and more and every think hang when xfdesktop cpu usage=100% |
| ryan22 | ya try upgrading xfce4 |
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