| dpkg | To locate the kernel module(s) supporting your hardware, run lspci -k (lenny+), or lspci -nn, and ask me about <pciid 00:1b.0 Audio device ... [8086:284b] ...> Where [8086:284b] is the vendor+device id of your hardware. Results should be similar to <hcl>, but uses your local /lib/modules/*/modules.alias to guess. Some hardware uses alternate means of detection: beware of some false positives+negatives. /msg judd pciid 0806:284b |
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| Bird|ghosted | yeah judd's AWOL |
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| simonrvn | will be back soonish |
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| kcj1993 | Armageddon: Any code I can run to see what is is? |
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| Armageddon | you don't know what you have ? |
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| kcj1993 | ati 200m or something, i'm using a laptop |
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| Armageddon | kcj1993: try lspci | grep VGA |
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| kcj1993 | 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) |
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| Armageddon | ok then it is probably working |
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| Armageddon | kcj1993: there are not official drivers for ATI cards, you are probably using fglrx |
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| macrobat | ravenbird: pciid 14e4:4315 |
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| ravenbird | macrobat: I give up, what is it? |
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| Bird|ghosted | Armageddon, the 200M SHOULD work with radeon/r300 |
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| Armageddon | Bird|ghosted: they all work |
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| Bird|ghosted | yeah. the 200M is a bit of a flake I hear though |
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| Armageddon | Bird|ghosted: but there are not official drivers from ATI, fglrx is the only driver available right ? |
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| kcj1993 | but if i try to start compiz xorg crashes |
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| simonrvn | wrong |
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| Armageddon | cause I have the 3650 |
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| kcj1993 | so I'm guessing i don't have the drivers |
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| alrs | Armageddon: x.org has radeon drivers |
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| Bird|ghosted | Armageddon, no...fglrx is the official driver from ati |
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| Armageddon | simonrvn: wrong ? |
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| Armageddon | it is ? :/ |
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| Armageddon | ok then |
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| Armageddon | cool |
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| Bird|ghosted | radeon/r300/r300g/r600 = the open-source drivers within the Mesa codebase |
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| simonrvn | exactly |
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| simonrvn | and many more; man radeon |
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| Bird|ghosted | for radeons below the HD2k/HD3k/X4k/X5k, radeon is the definite choice |
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| Bird|ghosted | and with recent Mesa versions, even HD2k/HD3k/X4k hardware is worth trying r600 on |
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| kcj1993 | is there any way to test it hardware acceleration is working? |
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| Bird|ghosted | (recent = 7.6.1 and later) |
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| Bird|ghosted | kcj1993, glxinfo | grep direct |
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| Bird|ghosted | also glxgears |
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| kcj1993 | Warning, xpress200 detected. |
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| kcj1993 | direct rendering: Yes |
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| Bird|ghosted | kcj1993, pastebin me the output of glxinfo |
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| Bird|ghosted | and also, don't expect anything, the Radeon Xpress 200 series is seriously buggy WRT OpenGL (on all platforms) |
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| Bird|ghosted | the best you will get is pathetic performance (>1spf) |
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| Armageddon | do I need the security debian repos ? |
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| Armageddon | cause I can't connect to the repos, unless there is another one |
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| kcj1993 | Bird|ghosted, http://paste.ubuntu.com/362957/ |
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| Bird|ghosted | kcj1993, then the r300 driver is doing the best it can for you |
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| kcj1993 | ok |
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| Bird|ghosted | fglrx is a very good way to break a system, so I wouldn't recommend installing it, as it won't help anything |
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| kcj1993 | ok |
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| Armageddon | kcj1993: listen to Bird|ghosted |
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| Bird|ghosted | there are BIOS/firmware flaws in the card most likely :( that prevent it from doing much of anything beside flopping about uselessly when it tries to do OpenGL accel |
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| DEbiansqueeze | not some type of composite issue or anything ? |
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| Armageddon | I've already tried it, it messes up the system big time if you make a little mistake |
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| kcj1993 | so why is compiz crashing when I try to run it? |
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| kcj1993 | compiz worked fine in ubuntu |
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| Bird|ghosted | kcj1993, dunno then |
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| DEbiansqueeze | can you run glxgears? |
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| Bird|ghosted | try running glxgears and seeing if things crash |
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| Bird|ghosted | or if they stay stable |
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| Bird|ghosted | also test with a 3d game...Nexuiz for instance |
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| DEbiansqueeze | thats where i would syart |
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| kcj1993 | yep glxgears run |
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| DEbiansqueeze | sauer |
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| Bird|ghosted | ok, move on to Nexuiz then... |
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| Bird|ghosted | or Sauerbraten, whichever flavor you prefer ;) |
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| DEbiansqueeze | and can i see your xorg conf? |
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| Bird|ghosted | I need to trundle off to a meeting though |
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| Bird|ghosted | o/ |
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| Teratogen | why is firefox called iceweasel on debian? |
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| themill | dpkg: tell Teratogen about why iceweasel |
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| Armageddon | Teratogen: firefox is different from iceweasel |
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| Armageddon | Teratogen: iceweasel is based on mozilla |
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| kcj1993 | Bird|ghosted, nexuiz is a 300mb+ download, any thing smaller? |
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| kcj1993 | anything* |
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| jhutchins_lt | So... if iceweasel is no longer supported as of etch, what does lenny use? |
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| DEbiansqueeze | you got google earth installed? |
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| kcj1993 | me? |
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| DEbiansqueeze | yeah |
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| kcj1993 | I'll go and get it |
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| DEbiansqueeze | at least you would use it again |
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| themill | jhutchins_lt: err... no longer supported *in* etch, not "as of etch". |
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| jhutchins_lt | themill: I was wondering if that was it. |
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| kcj1993 | google earth crashes |
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| kcj1993 | this sucks |
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| kcj1993 | I might as well go back to ubuntu |
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| kcj1993 | :( |
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| cirwin | forgive me, but where is the missing link between apt-get source mysql_client-5.1 and dpkg-source -x mysql_client-5.1 ? |
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| oggei | cirwin: uh ? |
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| cirwin | I want to get the sources for the mysql client package |
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| cirwin | apparently I can use dpkg-source to get them, once I've apt-get source'd it |
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| cirwin | but I don't know how to make it actually do anythign |
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| oggei | apt-get source mysql-client is enough you have to do for having an uncompressed source tree in your current directory, and a couple of support files |
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| cirwin | oohhh.. |
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| cirwin | thank you |
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| oggei | (also, apt-get source mysql_client-5.1 will fail cause no package with this name) |
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| cirwin | mysql-client, w.e :p |
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| Trollinator | Hi, where can i find netinstall images for debian testing? I tried here: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/ |
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| Trollinator | but the only images i find there are for lenny, not for squeeze |
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| streuner | !netinstall |
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| dpkg | somebody said netinst was a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>, <installer>. |
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| streuner | just upgrade to squeeze then |
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| Trollinator | this has _zero_ to do with what i've been asking. |
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| Trollinator | It's rather stupid to install stable and then upgrade instead of installing testing in the first place. |
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| streuner | why? |
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| Trollinator | because installing it already takes ages because it has to download so much. |
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| streuner | the only thing is, IMO, what kind of d-i (Debian Installer) you use... |
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| Trollinator | and then i have to download everything again because everything is newer. |
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| streuner | no |
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| streuner | just install a basic system |
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| Trollinator | and besides, my wlan doesn't work with kernel 2.6.26. |
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| streuner | thats not much in Debian |
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| Trollinator | and no, i can't plug in a cable, sorry. |
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| streuner | well, you should look for a d-i which solve that then, kmuto i.e. |
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| streuner | or a devel d-i |
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| streuner | wlan doesnt work, why? |
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| Trollinator | kmuto? |
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| streuner | !kmuto |
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| dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
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| Trollinator | because 2.6.26 doesn't have the driver. |
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| streuner | hm |
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| macrobat | debootstrap from grml |
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| macrobat | http://grml.org/ |
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| dvs | Trollinator: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ |
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| macrobat | more to download :) |
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| streuner | grml has its own function to setup to Debian, true... |
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| streuner | or that |
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| streuner | Trollinator: you see, there are many ways to install Debian... |
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| Trollinator | i'm installing on a laptop without an optical drive and i only have a 128 MB usb key. |
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| Trollinator | i'll take a look at the kmuto thing. |
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| streuner | how about an extern USB DVD LW? |
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| Trollinator | i don't have one. |
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| streuner | thats always crap |
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| streuner | !rube goldberg install |
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| dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke." |
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| streuner | if you dont have the hardware to install |
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| tking | Trollinator, business cd iso |
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| tking | I think that fits <128mb |
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| streuner | and that would work within USB stickß |
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| streuner | ? |
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| Trollinator | yes, it does. |
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| Trollinator | the lenny one does boot. |
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| macrobat | usb sticks are cheap |
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| Trollinator | it's just that the wlan doesn't work. |
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| tking | not cheap when you have 0 monies |
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| abrotman | the kmuto is bigger than 128MB |
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| lenswipe | hey guys |
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| Trollinator | yeah, kmuto doesn't help me. |
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| macrobat | sell that laptop :) |
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| streuner | for sure (kmuto) |
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| lenswipe | how do i set debian so that all user home dirs are created with 700 |
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| Trollinator | macrobat: why would i? |
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| Trollinator | abrotman: i have a 1 GB stick, i just lended it to someone. |
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| streuner | well, you should have something at least to install Debian, otherwise we cant help |
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| Trollinator | err, not abrotman but macrobat |
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| Trollinator | streuner: well, i have the 128 MB stick. |
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| Trollinator | there was the mini.iso for stable, i just need a recent kernel to go with it. |
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| abrotman | Trollinator: so get it back |
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| abrotman | Trollinator: is it for a server? |
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| Trollinator | no, for a notebook without an optical drive. |
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| Trollinator | perhaps i'll just install sid instead |
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| abrotman | Trollinator: you could use the squeeze installer .. though you get the warts that are inherent with using testing |
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| Trollinator | my first question when i joined this channel was where to get the netboot images for squeeze. |
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| Trollinator | for some mysterious reason, the images in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/ don't actually contain testing, but stable images. |
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| lenswipe | how do i set debian so that all user home dirs are created with 700 permissions? |
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| lenswipe | anyone know? |
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| abrotman | lenswipe: vi /etc/adduser.conf |
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| lenswipe | tyvm |
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| abrotman | Trollinator: moment |
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| abrotman | Trollinator: i386 or amd64 ? |
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| Trollinator | i386 |
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| abrotman | Trollinator: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso .. best of luck to you |
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| Trollinator | it's an atom processor, i think those don't have 64 bits, right? |
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| abrotman | Trollinator: uhm .. i'm too lazy to turn mine on :) |
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| blizzow | I just did a dist-upgrade on squeeze and it brought up a screen saying it doesn't have the firmware files for a realtek 8169 network card. It says I need to enable a restricted repository, anyone here know how I should do that? |
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| lenswipe | abrotman: i just edited DIR_MODE=700 im assuming thats the correct one? - i commented the old one out rather than delete it just in case ;) |
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| dvs | Trollinator: most don't |
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| abrotman | blizzow: probably wants the non-free repo so you cann install the firmware from there |
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| dvs | Trollinator: 230, 330, N450 do |
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| Trollinator | i think it's a 270 |
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| blizzow | abrotman: non-free is listed in my sources.list. I'm kind of worried that when I reboot, I won't have a network card. |
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| Trollinator | OK, thanks. |
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| dvs | they don't |
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| blizzow | which would suck. |
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| Trollinator | bye |
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| abrotman | blizzow: do you have the actual text of the message ? |
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| blizzow | no, it was a whiptail message when I ran aptitude safe-upgrade |
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| blizzow | I just mentioned the firmware for my network card (realtek 8169) and that it was part of a restricted package. |
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| dvs | !non-free |
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| dpkg | hmm... non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| blizzow | !non-free sources |
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| dpkg | methinks non-free sources is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then aptitude update. But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
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| abrotman | blizzow: aptitude search firmware |
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| dotCOMmie | Hey does kbluetooth work for anyone, I haven't been able to make it work sice kde4 hit debian. |
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| dotCOMmie | All I get is "no bluetooth adapter" when I hover mouse over kbluetooth logo |
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| blizzow | abrotman: thanks, I'll install linux-firmware-nonfree |
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| abrotman | blizzow: and you should be able to boot your current kernel i'd think |
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| blizzow | When I installed linux-firmware-nonfree, it started update-initramfs and said "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl8168d2.fw for module r8169" It's also missing rtl8168d-2.fw but it exits okay with no other warnings. |
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| abrotman | !find rtl8168d2.fw unstable |
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| bluejeans | good evening... how do i install aufs-module to my squeeze ?? |
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| dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'rtl8168d2.fw' returned no results. |
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| bluejeans | abrotman: i just got here.. but what's up? i was haivng darned hard tiem with that same pieve of firmare the other day.. |
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| abrotman | the kernel wants it |
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