| catfive_ | thanks SerajewelKS , abrotman |
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| SerajewelKS | or you need to try the same device on another computer |
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| SerajewelKS | catfive_: np, any time you need misinformation, just ask |
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| catfive_ | heh |
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| catfive_ | for the record, aptitude had no objections |
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| qfr | What is state of the art traffic shaping software for Linux? Somebody told me that everything ultimately still uses tcng which hasn't been updated since 2003. I am currently failing to build it on my Arch router - which is why I am asking. Apparently there are modified versions of it in the Debian repositories from which I was using it successfully back then. Apparently this is it: http://patch-tracker.debian.org/patch/nondebian/view/tcng/10b-3 - I have no idea |
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| qfr | if I can use this with Arch, though. |
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| solifugus | Why might I be getting an ssh prompt for password? I did: ssh-keygen -t dsa && scp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub 10.15.92.132:/home/rcbackup/.ssh/authorized-keys |
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| themill | dpkg: tell solifugus about ssh permissions |
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| themill | solifugus: you're better off using ssh-copy-id btw |
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| solifugus | themill: I'll try that, since even with permissions like this, it still doesn't work: -rw------- 1 rcbackup rcbackup 623 2010-05-13 10:48 authorized-keys |
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| themill | solifugus: it's not just they key file, it's also ~/ and ~/.ssh that are important. And check the filename there... that doesn't look right. |
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| simonrvn | qfr: i don't see whay not, it's mostly just patching the autoconf stuff |
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| qfr | Ok cheers, the Arch AUR might require an update there, they should probably use the Debian code |
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| qfr | simonrvn or has tcng been superceded as a QoS tool? |
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| qfr | For Linux? |
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| solifugus | themill: ok.. it works now.. I remembering fighting with RHEL over this same issue once.. Their ssh package didn't even include the ssh-copy-id command. |
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| simonrvn | qfr: why* |
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| Action: Salvia alema0 ja que vc nao vai por o banza eu vou fazer sozinho |
| {g} | Hi People! I installed Debian and I have huuuuuuuge form buttons in icewasel and a lot of other stuff is huge too. The start menu, window menus etc. |
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| solifugus | Or was that cygwin? I forget |
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| {g} | Which setting is doing that? |
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| qfr | simonrvn: Because I don't want to invest time in fixing outdated software while Linux might have moved on to something totally different for programmatic low level traffic shaping confdiguration? |
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| themill | solifugus: ssh-copy-id is most excellent ;) |
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| simonrvn | people use tc from ip |
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| qfr | Oh, you fixed the whay* |
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| simonrvn | qfr: most people use tc from ip |
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| simonrvn | (load avg. is ~8 right now) |
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| mattcen | Hi all. Having done a minimal install of Lenny, and then manually installed xorg, fluxbox, and xdm, what is the correct way to start X on boot? |
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| wols | mattcen: it's automatically running xdm when you have installed it |
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| qfr | simonrvn: tcng generates tc scripts it seems - they are INCREDIBLY long and cryptic :| |
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| qfr | tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0 protocol all prio 1 u32 match u16 0x0 0xffc0 at 2 match u8 0x5 0xf at 0 match u8 0x0 0xf0 at 33 match u8 0x11 0xff at 9 offset at 0 mask 0f00 shift 6 eat link 23:0:0 |
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| qfr | tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0 protocol all prio 1 handle 23:0:1 u32 ht 23:0:0 match u16 0x4c6f 0xffff at 0 classid 1:2 |
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| qfr | It goes on like that for 500+ lines |
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| simonrvn | ah. pretty typical actually. |
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| mattcen | wols: Oh so it is. I *almost* just tried rebooting, but didn't see anything relevent in /etc/inittab, so assumed it wasn't working. Thanks :-) |
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| dv- | You can start xdm without reboot too |
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| qfr | simonrvn it seems like people use pyshaper, wondershaper etc to generate the tc code instead |
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| simonrvn | i'd stick with tcng for now then since tc on its own is too damned opaque ;) |
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| qfr | I should probably just use those then :| |
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| simonrvn | yeh, i use wondershaper |
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| qfr | Well I have failed to build tcng on Arch so far ;/ |
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| qfr | The AUR entry for it appears to be broken |
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| simonrvn | (modified ever so slightly) |
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| {g} | Hello Helloohohoho! Where do I set the font size of the menus of the windows in Debian? Anyone? I got groteskely big fonts there... |
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| simonrvn | 'grotesquely' |
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| Bushmills | "debian windows"? head scratch. |
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| niklaswe | {g}: do you mean set dpi ? |
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| simonrvn | probably |
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| {g} | niklaswe: i dont know. the titles and menus of the windows are *big*. too big. |
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| niklaswe | if you starting X from console mode.. can you set in your .bash_profile alias startx="startx -- -dpi 96" |
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| {g} | niklaswe: X starts magically on its own after i hit the power button. |
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| niklaswe | then you must fix your dpi setting in gdm, or xdm |
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| {g} | there is a video here: http://ubuntuclips.org/videos_28.html that looks good. but there seems to be no "fonts" thingy in debian. |
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| dv- | {g}: System -> Preferences -> Apperance -> Fonts |
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| dv- | Appearance* |
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| {g} | dv-: aahhhh! |
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| dv- | You're running GNOME by the way |
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| simonrvn | for half a second there i thought you were yelling in fright |
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| simonrvn | {g}: ^^ |
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| {g} | still, the fonts used in forms in iceweasel are giant |
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| {g} | and it doesnt change with the fonts settings in appearance. |
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| dv- | Have you tried unchecking the "Allow pages to use their own fonts" option? |
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| {g} | dv-: where is that? |
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| dv- | In iceweasel, edit -> preferences -> content -> advanced |
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| dv- | the second "advanced" that is |
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| dkay | hello #debian |
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| dkay | ive mounted a ftp account with curlftpfs |
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| dkay | i dont know which os is used |
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| {g} | dv-: hmm... all these font settings do not affect the forms. |
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| dkay | but i cant copy files to it, it says |
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| dkay | cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/ftp/file.tar': Operation not permitted |
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| dkay | i do this as root and the file owns root also |
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| {g} | dkay: do you have ssh access to the server? if so, sshfs is working really nicely. |
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| dkay | no |
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| dkay | i dont |
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| {g} | dkay: only ftp? |
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| dkay | its a ftp account |
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| simonrvn | dkay: check the dir's perms, and also the perms of the mountpoint |
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| simonrvn | {g}: the dpi needs setting i bet. s/he can do that in the appearance > fonts then click the details... button |
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| dkay | drwxrwx--- 2 root root 4096 May 11 10:01 files |
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| {g} | simonrvn: i played around with that. |
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| {g} | dkay: and what outputs "whoami"? |
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| dkay | i am root :P |
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| simonrvn | {g}: set to like 80 or so |
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| dkay | lol |
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| simonrvn | should help a lot |
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| {g} | simonrvn: then all fonts become tiny tiny tiny. except in forms in iceweasel. they stay huge. |
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| simonrvn | the forms take in the page's font settings |
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| {g} | simonrvn: and a few other fonts as well. for example the iceweasel status bar. |
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| dv- | Sounds like your iceweasel is broken. Consider downloading Firefox |
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| {g} | dv-: i already have downloaded firefox. same result. i wonder if firefox might have killed iceweasel. |
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| simonrvn | dimensions: 1152x864 pixels resolution: 96x96 dots per inch # gnome has 80dpi ;p |
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| simonrvn | {g}: if they had similar versions, probably not |
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| {g} | simonrvn: ice is 3.0. FF is 3.7 |
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| simonrvn | shouldn't matter |
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| ham5 | Mozilla Firefox 3.6.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2010 mozilla.org |
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| {g} | simonrvn: but i only downloaded FF into a folder. no installing. |
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| simonrvn | yes and? |
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| {g} | simonrvn: maybe because i set the screen resolution via xrandr? |
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| dv- | Remove .mozilla? |
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| simonrvn | {g}: what's it at now? and the moz apps aren't always responsive to X changes. they got better with gtk support, but still a few places they suck. |
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| {g} | simonrvn: what is what at? |
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| simonrvn | dpi |
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| {g} | simonrvn: i set it back to 132. i think that was the default. |
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| rox | hello, what's the new canonical way to restart network? |
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| simonrvn | screen size? |
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| simonrvn | rox: invoke-rc.d |
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| rox | simonrvn: the same complaint |
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| {g} | simonrvn: 1280x1024 on my external monitor. switched back to my internal now. 1280x800. |
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| simonrvn | rox: or ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
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| rox | simonrvn: it complains about being deprecated |
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| simonrvn | rox: or -a if you want all of them ;p |
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| rox | ok |
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| {g} | simonrvn: also my font in the task bar looks big. |
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| rox | simonrvn: ifup/down doesn't reset the routing table :-/ |
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| simonrvn | {g}: my screen size is similar. i found anything bigger than 100x100 to be too effing icky. |
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| djura-san | how to check app version in repos using apt in debian sid? |
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| simonrvn | djura-san: what? |
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| simonrvn | rox: no, invoke-rc.d networking stop && .... start does |
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| djura-san | how can i check app version in my repos using apt? |
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| djura-san | i want to know what pidgin version is available in experimental repos |
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| simonrvn | djura-san: your repos, or what's available? |
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| djura-san | my repos |
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| wols | djura-san: apt-cache policy |
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| {g} | simonrvn: i think i will switch back to ubuntu. never had that problem there. |
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| ham5 | ;version pidgin |
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| ham5 | ? |
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| wols | ,versions pidgin |
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| judd | pidgin -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4lenny5~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny5; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny6; squeeze: 2.6.5-2; lenny-backports: 2.6.6-1~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.6-2 |
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| ham5 | o yeah |
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| simonrvn | djura-san: apt-cache policy if you have experimental sources... you should consider using testing instead |
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| wols | simonrvn: testing? stable! |
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| djura-san | im using sid all the times but im curious just to see the version ;) |
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| simonrvn | he'll complain that's "too old".... |
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| ham5 | pidgin just came out with 2.7 |
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| ham5 | build yourself |
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| ham5 | :) |
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| djura-san | i have experimental repos for fun but i pined down the unstable one just in case ;) |
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| \amethyst | 2.7 is in unstable |
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| simonrvn | djura-san: yes, and your level of expertise i'd recommend using stable |
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| \amethyst | in some architectures |
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| djura-san | simonrvn: i believe i can handle sid most of my times :) |
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| djura-san | :> |
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| djura-san | okay, tnx guys for answer :) |
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| simonrvn | i hope your $deity is lenient with you in that case |
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| djura-san | i will assume that that is a good thing :> |
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| dbbolton | i am planning to repartition my hard drive. is there anything i should back up other than /etc, /root/, and /home ? |
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| Action: wols is a solpsist. I'm always lenient with myself |
| wols | dbbolton: any data you want to keep. e.g /var might have some like mail, webpages etc |
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| simonrvn | /usr/local too if you have stuff there |
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| dbbolton | the only mail i get is about failed cron jobs |
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| themill | dbbolton: for some other ideas, /msg dpkg things to backup |
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| dbbolton | of course, the all-knowing dpkg |
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| rox | does anybody know, did just /etc/init.d/networking restart get deprecated or also stop and start |
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| abrotman | should work fine |
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| nsadmin | I'm getting ready to boot a later kernel for my ol k6 box... what is the deal with installing the newer udev package? when exactly should it be installed? |
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| nsadmin | going from a custom 2.6.18 to a very-close-to-debian-but-still-custom 2.6.26 |
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| jordanm | nsadmin: should be explained in the upgrading section of the release notes |
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| qubodup | hello |
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| qubodup | I would like to have some GPL advice |
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| qubodup | it's about a texture for a foss game, which wants to be debian-clean |
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| jordanm | !ask |
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| dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| frol | Hi |
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| frol | I have an issue installing Debian 5.0 on my computer |
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| frol | the install program can't find th disk driver |
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| mguy | What is your disk controller? |
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| frol | mguy: Good question ;) How answer to this question |
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| jordanm | !kmuto |
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| dpkg | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
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| frol | it is a SATA |
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| frol | ^^ |
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| jordanm | frol: I would just try kmuto |
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| frol | jordanm: oki thnaks |
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| fubada | hi |
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| nsadmin | is there an apt/aptitude/dpkg/apt-get that can use faster storage and access techniques for the package database? |
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| qubodup | hi |
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| qubodup | I'm sorry, I watned to ask something but then did so, on a different channel accidentally |
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| qubodup | Can the following term be added to a GPLed texture? "Some source textures have been used which are created by CGTextures.com. Permission is granted to use these specific textures under the GPLv2 or any later version (at your option). As additional requirement, this text should be included in a relevant place in any released product. Note that textures downloaded from CGTextures.com DO NOT fall under the GPL license by default." |
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| dupondje | Is there a 2.6.32 kernel + xen hypervisor for Lenny around ? backports doens't contain the hypervisor :( |
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| nsadmin | qubodup: (a) DO NOT listen to me... consult an attorney (b) it says in the GPL you can't add restrictive conditions |
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| qubodup | nsadmin: but how is this 'restrictive'? |
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| pipeline | qubodup: it requires you to do something that the gpl does not require |
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| \amethyst | qubodup: because it adds an additional requirement on top of those imposed by the GPL itself |
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| pipeline | qubodup: it doesn't really matter though. You're going to have to include the GPL in your EULA anyway; adding an extra blurb about cgtextures.com shouldn't be any skin off your back :P |
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| qubodup | nsadmin: What about Section 7 of the GPL? |
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| nsadmin | including something like the gfdl :) |
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| qubodup | pipeline: I don't have an EULA :) I want to upload a texture that was created for warzone2100 to opengameart.org |
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| themill | pipeline: debian doesn't have a EULA though does it? |
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| \amethyst | qubodup: that would be fine in gpl3 probably |
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| SerajewelKS | qubodup: "relevant place" is also very ambiguous |
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| themill | \amethyst: yeah, §7b would appear to explicitly permit that. |
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| unkmar | I'm back. |
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| SerajewelKS | qubodup: if you want to release it as free content, release it as free content. don't half-ass it with bizarre restrictions. |
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| SerajewelKS | qubodup: alternatively, use something like cc-by |
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| unkmar | I have a base install. No X. :( |
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| unkmar | I installed X but it crashed. |
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| nsadmin | unkmar: congratulations on getting the base going... |
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| nsadmin | is it lenny or squeeze |
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