| SpiLoT | i cant see you anyymore! |
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| SpiLoT | no! |
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| SpiLoT | shit im alone again. |
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| SpiLoT | anyone thurr? |
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| edd91 | how funny do you think you are /10 |
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| SpiLoT | yes you saw what i did there? |
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| SpiLoT | made you lol, didn't it? |
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| edd91 | maybe |
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| edd91 | textarea#styled { |
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| edd91 | width: 80%; |
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| edd91 | } |
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| edd91 | i have that |
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| oksushi | youre always better just to ask the question, not ask if anyone is active, or if there are any experts available. If someone can help, they will. |
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| edd91 | oh |
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| edd91 | wait |
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| edd91 | i see |
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| oksushi | and dont paste text here |
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| SpiLoT | use pastebin instead |
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| edd91 | nm if ixed it im a retard |
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| edd91 | i have a textarea |
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| edd91 | and on Safari on the iphone it doesnt have a scroll bar |
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| edd91 | what am i meant to do |
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| oksushi | ]secret @ edd91 |
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| _ZofBot4 | edd91, secret: No URL = no help. We are not telepaths, and can't determine the problem (let alone the solution) without playing with the troublesome page. So, give URL, or leave the channel and call 1-900-PSYCHIC. Oh, and good luck. You'll need it. |
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| edd91 | how the hell is that relevant |
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| SpiLoT | ... |
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| edd91 | i have a normal textarea, and iphone has no scroll bar |
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| edd91 | is there a trick to giving the iphone a scrollbar |
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| SpiLoT | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=css+iphone+scrollable+text+area |
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| ServerSage | slideToggle is working in non IE browsers for me, but in IE it does a slide down followed by a slide up, or so it appears. Any ideas? |
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| ibrahimm | hi |
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| hmw | hi |
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| enerel | hi all |
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| enerel | anyone there? |
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| enerel | the top input autocomplete is messing with the slider content. see here http://www.mongolio.com/ |
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| WePanicForYou | enerel: ask your question and someone may answer |
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| enerel | type at least 2 letter ex: mo |
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| WePanicForYou | enerel: do you not want the auto-complete to come down over the slider content or? |
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| enerel | the slider is overlaying with the autocopmlete drop down |
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| hmw | enerel: btw, in FF I cannot use that feature. If one waits until the image below is changed, the list works all the sudden |
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| hmw | (IE8/XP) |
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| hmw | enerel: I cannot really help in this case, but it might be some z-index or transparency issue. |
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| enerel | slider text can be seen through.. why? |
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| enerel | but why only text's? |
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| WePanicForYou | hrm yeah this i sbeyond my skillset enerel |
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| WePanicForYou | enerel: wait in here a bit - azazul and riven are really good at helping |
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| enerel | thank you |
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| hmw | enerel: neither your HTML nor the CSS is valid |
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| WePanicForYou | hmw: nice one to check that, didn't think to do that |
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| hmw | repair it while you wait, perhaps this way your problem dissolves |
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| enerel | okay |
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| enerel | http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ is it good? |
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| enerel | omg this validation thing will never work |
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| hmw | enerel: yes. Check out http://pastebin.com/QQ3mQ7DN |
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| enerel | that autocomplete is from jQuery UI but validation says UI has error |
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| hmw | wow, i mistyped webdvout in my FF's adress bar, and it still took me to the real page! - dont they have a pastebin? pastebin.com all the sudden wants captchas, and it's ugly. |
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| enerel | * i will go to toilet now, ill be back after 30min |
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| hmw | enerel: tmi - we will not be sad, if you take a while, until you answer. Please don't feel ignored, if we take an hour to respond. - ;-) |
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| WePanicForYou | man this is my first mongolian i've met online |
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| hmw | same here :-) |
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| WePanicForYou | i'm excited as i'll be building a yurt this year funnily |
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| hmw | oh nice... i like yurts |
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| WePanicForYou | hmw: yeah mate i've been planning on making one since 2006 but this year i'll finally get it together and test out my first one |
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| enerel | i ma back |
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| enerel | it was faster than i thought |
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| enerel | lol |
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| hmw | enerel: when I put my IE in "compliance mode", the bug disappears, but the layout breaks |
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| enerel | WePanicForYou: yurt? thats kewl, it in your garden? uwant to use it like summer tent? |
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| enerel | compliance mode what is that? |
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| WePanicForYou | enerel: i plan to one day live all year in my ger |
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| WePanicForYou | enerel i'll take this to query |
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| hmw | wait a second... the bug seems gone |
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| hmw | enerel: IE8 has a little button besides the address bar (looks like a broken page icon) |
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| enerel | no it is not in my FF i still see it is overriding the content |
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| enerel | oh got it |
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| hmw | my FF can display it now to--- whatever you did, it must have removed the problem |
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| enerel | really |
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| hmw | does one need to be registered, to enter #css ? |
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| hmw | "MasterZuFu" PMed me about |
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| azazul | no, just to talk |
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| JDigital | I tried to turn it off but I can't find the button. |
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| enerel | hmw i still see it |
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| enerel | azazul do you have time to see my stupido bug |
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| azazul | do i really have to ? |
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| enerel | just asking if you have time |
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| hmw | enerel: try a hard reload (disable your cache) - FF: Ctrl+Shift+R, IE: CTRL+ClickOnReloadButton |
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| enerel | ok |
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| enerel | hehe its gone |
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| MasterZuFu | ok, NOW let's see if this works. can anyone see this? |
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| hmw | yes |
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| hmw | welcome, MasterZuFu |
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| MasterZuFu | alright, sweet action. :P |
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| MasterZuFu | hey everyone. I'm having an issue with CSS. This is my first time working with this. I have a <ul>, one part is floated left, but then I have another item that's floated right. How do I get that to work without having to use two different <ul>? and if I have to use two <ul>, how do i get them to use the SAME background image? |
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| enerel | azazul: thank you for being kind |
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| hmw | enerel: I recommend FireFox AddOns "WebDeveloper" and "FireBug" |
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| enerel | i have them |
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| enerel | anyway hmw tnx a lot |
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| hmw | ye, enerel |
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| hmw | youre welcome, i mean |
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| hmw | MasterZuFu: just assign "float:left" and "float:right" to those LIs - usually not a problem. Perhaps you should provide a URL. |
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| MasterZuFu | hang on, let me upload the documents |
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| MasterZuFu | http://www.nameofchrist.net/ |
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| MasterZuFu | i'm trying to convert a photoshop mockup to an html/css web page |
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| MasterZuFu | it's not so easy when you have no idea what you're doing :P |
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| hmw | MasterZuFu: your'e so right, especially with CSS ;-) |
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| MasterZuFu | :P |
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| enerel | mockup? |
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| MasterZuFu | yeah, hang on i'll show you the image i made for it |
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| enerel | sure |
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| hmw | MasterZuFu: I understood, you made a template in PS and are now trying to implement it...? |
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| MasterZuFu | http://i48.tinypic.com/33w0ar5.jpg |
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| MasterZuFu | yessir |
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| enerel | it is easy |
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| enerel | will you hire me for that? |
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| MasterZuFu | for someone who knows how to do it |
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| enerel | :p |
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| MasterZuFu | i'd rather not hire someone to do a simple task. if it's so simple, i should be able to learn how to do it myself :P |
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| MasterZuFu | i'm just having difficulties :D |
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| enerel | it is simple just it takes some time u know |
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| hmw | MasterZuFu: make a test page with only an UL list for checking it out. The order of the elements might behave a bit surprisingly. I would first list all floatleft and then all floatright elements. Use a class to make them floatright. Get FireBug. |
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| hmw | enerel: 1 minute |
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| MasterZuFu | no idea what that means |
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| enerel | if you purchased this design there must be an html css version of it |
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| MasterZuFu | negative |
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| MasterZuFu | why would there be? |
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| MasterZuFu | it was a tutorial |
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| hmw | MasterZuFu: http://80.109.22.34/templates/basic_horizontal_UL_menu/ |
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| ZombieLoffe | class="right" is a terrible class name |
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| hmw | ZombieLoffe: right it is. suggest a better one please |
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| ZombieLoffe | "last" |
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| ZombieLoffe | Not to mention there's a <br> in there.. eew! |
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| hmw | i dont like that either. hmm... i want it a bit more semantic |
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| MasterZuFu | hmmmmmmm interesting |
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| hmw | oh. i usually use <div class="clear"></div>, which is still ugly, but works coross browser |
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| wathek | hello all |
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| wathek | is it possible to add a shadow to a div using only css ? |
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| wathek | I'd like to add a shadow to this http://wathek.homelinux.org/magistrats/ |
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| ZombieLoffe | hmw: That's also unnecessary -- http://colinaarts.com/articles/float-containment/ |
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| hmw | wathek: i once added a pseudo shadow, not very much like the photoshop ones with border. If you do it right, it might perhaps even look "ok" enough |
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| wathek | hmw, hein ! |
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| hmw | :after does not work in IE6 |
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| ZombieLoffe | wathek: Newer browsers support box-shadow (with vendor proprietary properties) |
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| hmw | but thats a cool link, thank you |
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| ZombieLoffe | hmw: Read the article.. |
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| hmw | i will |
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| wathek | ZombieLoffe, what do you mean by with vendor proprietary properties? |
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| ZombieLoffe | wathek: -moz-box-shadow, -webkit-box-shadow etc.. |
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| wathek | ah |
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| wathek | I see |
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| wathek | ok gonna take a look at that |
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| wathek | thank you |
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| ZombieLoffe | wathek: For crap browsers like IE you're pretty much stuck with either background images, additional elements or borders |
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| hmw | ZombieLoffe: i cannot remember, if i made that template before i found out about the hidden HasLayout attribute |
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| wathek | ZombieLoffe, yes |
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| hmw | i only know, that it is painful to implement |
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| MasterZuFu | what's the css end for that <li class="right"><a href="#">Subscribe Via RSS</a></li> ? |
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| wathek | ZombieLoffe, really I like it :D |
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| wathek | ZombieLoffe, http://wathek.homelinux.org/magistrats/ |
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| wathek | ZombieLoffe, using firefox |
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| ZombieLoffe | wathek, lookin' good :). |
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| wathek | yep |
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| MasterZuFu | um...for the css...what do i put? |
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| MasterZuFu | O.o anyone? |
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| ZombieLoffe | MasterZuFu, what do you want to accomplish? |
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| MasterZuFu | i have one link in the <ul> that needs to be floated right while the rest are floated left |
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| ZombieLoffe | MasterZuFu: hmw's example showed exactly that... |
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| MasterZuFu | right but it didn't show anything about css, it was all just html, which doesn't define anything and i don't know enough about css to know how to do that |
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| ZombieLoffe | MasterZuFu: There's a bunch of CSS inside <style> :P |
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| MasterZuFu | i just made the image with the words in them, now I just have to figure out how to make those clickable or whatever. it just seems like too much trouble. trying to get these in exactly the right place with the exact right width etc. etc. etc. |
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| tbuehlmann | greetings! I have a button in a td and it's located at the top of the cell. I'd like it to be in the vertical center, how would I do that? |
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| ZombieLoffe | vertical-align: middle; on the td... |
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| ZombieLoffe | Keep in mind, tables aren't for layout :) |
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| tbuehlmann | trying that, thanks. and it actually is data :) |
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| MasterZuFu | ok, screw this crap. i'm going to do this project in fireworks, something that i actually know how to use. |
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| hmw | aaw |
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| hmw | tbuehlmann: a button is data? how? |
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| ZombieLoffe | MasterZuFu: just be aware any wysiwyg editor produces horrible, inaccessible code |
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| hmw | MasterZuFu: yea. don't give up |
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| MasterZuFu | i'm just aware that i have no idea what i'm doing and it's beginning to become frustrating. |
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| ZombieLoffe | So learn CSS from the ground-up instead of starting with a complicated problem. |
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| tbuehlmann | naw, I have a table with event data, and I want to have a button for registering for an event. and I thought a td would be a good choice. if there is a better one, I'm open :) |
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| MasterZuFu | i don't have time for that |
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| hmw | MasterZuFu: I know that feeling. Take small steps. Create template test files. And most important: Use FireBug! |
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| MasterZuFu | how much would someone charge to turn this photoshop image into an actual page fit and ready to use a database with it? |
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| JDigital | MasterZuFu: you might find someone in #css-lance |
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| citizenkeys | ok. |
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| ZombieLoffe | "ready to use a database with it" is rather vague |
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| MasterZuFu | i know. |
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| azazul | it depends on thats in the PSD |
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| azazul | it migh be something from 100euro to 20'000euro+ |
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| ZombieLoffe | MasterZuFu, http://www.psd2html.com/ offers PSD to HTML services. |
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| gucko | !books |
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| gucko | ]tut |
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| ZombieLoffe | ]schools @ gucko |
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| _ZofBot4 | gucko, Explore the intricacies of HTML and CSS here: http://wsc.opera.com/ , www.htmlhelp.com/ , http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ , www.brainjar.com/ , www.htmldog.com/ , http://css.maxdesign.com.au/ |
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| azazul | ZombieLoffe: "ready to use with db" suggest that he wants serverside code too |
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| ZombieLoffe | Indeed. |
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| gucko | ZombieLoffe: for all those links, which one do you recommend to start with? |
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| ZombieLoffe | htmldog.com |
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| ZombieLoffe | or opera's wsc |
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