chovy	float
Gho	Tried float:left;
Gho	Can I show the the style.css please?
Gho	*show you the
DanInMass	no
DanInMass	use  http://webdevout.net/test
DanInMass	you start posting code in teh channel an no one will help you
DanInMass	post your example there and link the page and perhaps someone will be able to assist
Gho	I was going to use Pastebin, but ok
Vooloo	can someone help me align these span boxes with the text, I have tried numerous ways but can't figure it out. http://pastebin.ca/1873169
Vooloo	maybe there is a better way
DanInMass	the guys here prefer the webdev one most of the time
Gho	http://www.webdevout.net/test?02v
azazul	@http://www.webdevout.net/test?02v&raw
_ZofBot4	(webdevou...v&raw) HTML: Valid ( http://xrl.us/bhm8g9 ) CSS: Valid ( http://xrl.us/bhm8hb ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url (MIME: text/css;charset=UTF-8 )
Gho	Oh great, I took someone else's code to make them horizontal, and now they've jumped out of the div
sluther	hi guys.... here's my code http://www.webdevout.net/test?02w
sluther	i want all of the arrows to be centered on the bar.
sluther	(instead of offset to the right)
AdamWeston	hi all
AdamWeston	I'm ashamed to say I've never tried to make my text resizable to the user, so I need to know the best approach to that.
templaedhel	Javascript?
azazul	AdamWeston: use EMs
templaedhel	Oh, like that
templaedhel	I was thinking buttons to change font size
AdamWeston	I know that using a unit other than pt or px, but how do you set the base size?
AdamWeston	I'd like to have people see 11px unless they choose to make it bigger or smaller... does that make sense, or when you make it resizeable do you give up all hope of even suggesting a size?
templaedhel	Why would I get non anitaliased @font-face text on windows chrome?
nafta	hello, to isnert two stylesheets to an html....do I just add to <link> lines and that's it?
nafta	do I just add two <link> lines, and that's it? **
AdamWeston	yes
AdamWeston	if anyone here is in #web, I would appreciate someone asking an op why I am banned from the channel? I think it must be an error
\mSg	all /gateway/web users are banned from #web...I guess they want you to use a real client to connect
AdamWeston	oh =/
AdamWeston	difficult, many workplaces have firewall that block IRC ports
AdamWeston	also: jeez not friendly. there is no message or anything to that effect, and the gateway is provided by freenode itself. makes no sense
AdamWeston	ive been thinking for weeks i was personally banned for some inadvertant mistake on my part
AdamWeston	ugh
azazul	AdamWeston: it doesnt matter HOW you change the font size
azazul	but for fonts to scale in IE you will need EMs
\mSg	there's no way to create a message when banning an address
azazul	and then you can change the base font size ( imo  , better in  html{}  ) and it will change  in all the elements
\mSg	and they probably had to ban it due to abuse
coldhost	can someone take a look at my site at the comments area and tell me why the width its not working? http://coldhost.net/welcome/default/comments/3
AdamWeston	understood azazul. but in ems, the font size is relative to... what exactly?
coldhost	Thanks!
azazul	AdamWeston: it is relative to browsers default font size
AdamWeston	thats wwhat i thought
azazul	usually 16px , but it can be change for people with vision impairments
azazul	and when you scale the font size in browser it will essentaly change that default value
AdamWeston	ok i guess what i need to do is search for some info on default font sizes and then ue filters to address any that arent 16px
azazul	why ?
azazul	different default font size is NOT set by accident
AdamWeston	because i want to try and show a specific size for those users who havent chosen soemthing bigger or smaller
azazul	its because people want bigger/smaller text by default
AdamWeston	no you misunderstand
AdamWeston	i want to overcome differences in the browser defaults, not the user's choice
azazul	im not aware of a browser which had a different default font size
AdamWeston	ah ok
azazul	if it IS different , then it has been users choice
AdamWeston	thats really what i needed to know i guess. so i can calculate based on 16px
acr0nym	You should be able to put the default size in body {} and then use ems from there on :)
AdamWeston	again, when i say default, i mean the size the browser would show if the user has not chosen something different either from the gui or with their own stylesheet
AdamWeston	ok i'll figure it out since i cant seem to express my goal very well lol
coldhost	a little help here please..
acr0nym	AdamWeston, if you have time you should check out this article http://css-tricks.com/css-font-size/  it explains a lot about css font-sizes
azazul	]ask @ coldhost
_ZofBot4	coldhost, Ask forth your question to the all-knowing channel and we shall bestow upon you the answer of correctitude. Just ask and wait, if someone can help they will.
azazul	or you cant find the keys on the keyboard ?
coldhost	can someone take a look at my site at the comments area and tell me why the width its not working? http://coldhost.net/welcome/default/comments/3
coldhost	yes i can find them very well
azazul	@
coldhost	:)
_ZofBot4	(coldhost...nts/3) HTML: 327 Errors (see: http://xrl.us/bhm8mw ) CSS: Valid ( http://xrl.us/bhm8my ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Strict + url + 1 XML prolog (MIME: text/html; charset=utf-8 )
Action: azazul facepalms
AdamWeston	thanks acr0nym and azazul
azazul	start by removing the <?xml
coldhost	i know i have lots of error. i am stuck on that comments thing for some hour. first comment takes the width of 300 next they dont..
azazul	its caused by  #d a{}
AdamWeston	are you awre your site identifies you as a "cold ho"?
coldhost	AdamWeston: what do u mean?
coldhost	#d a {i have just a background picture here}
azazul	orly
AdamWeston	coldhost: I'm joking, but on my browser, your errors result in a dark object covering part of your logo
coldhost	yes yes..i know
AdamWeston	and alos, you are one cold ho.
AdamWeston	also
AdamWeston	your words;)
azazul	coldhost: there is this magical feature in firefox
azazul	get it
azazul	its called : firebug
Dravekx	got it
Dravekx	good
Dravekx	:D
Dravekx	cryptide, oh.. reason I havent been here in a while is that I'm changing professions.. took a bigger position offer in IT.
AdamWeston	wow i was making this harder than it is. all browsers really use 16px as the base font size?!
coldhost	azazul: i have it..
azazul	<coldhost>#d a {i have just a background picture here}
azazul	doesnt look like you are able to ues it
Dravekx	AdamWeston, mostly.
AdamWeston	Drave: please do point out any pitfalls
azazul	AdamWeston: yes
coldhost	azazul: point your firebug on the comment text and u will see i declared everything on width 300px and still
AdamWeston	obviously things like mobile browsers will differ
coldhost	nothing
Action: azazul facepalms
Dravekx	AdamWeston, in your case for an amateur then, yes. (professionally, not always)
Dravekx	:)
AdamWeston	i am actually a professional! I hate to admit that while i was an early adopter of most best practices, I've continued using px
AdamWeston	somehow I ran into early difficulty with relative units
AdamWeston	and ran away
Dravekx	oh, no offense, just constructive criticism :)
Dravekx	lol
AdamWeston	come on man, i've been using CSS since 1999, I was talking about separation of style from content to coldfusion programmers who thought i was insane
AdamWeston	:)
azazul	then it looks like nothign has changed in past 10 years
azazul	logic - content - design - behavior   separation is still a rare thing to behold
azazul	coldhost: if you are talking about overflowing text then its actually something you should be fixing on serverside , by adding  &sh;y (soft hyphens ) in long words
AdamWeston	or let it overlap if you prefer
Dravekx	too bad, there's no sex in the champaigne room
AdamWeston	if you make the right column float right and the left float left then overflowing text will just stick out without breaking the layout
AdamWeston	azazul:people seem smarter about that stuff today from my experience
Dravekx	Anyone for burgers, steaks, and hot dogs? Im on the grill... let me know, I'll send you one as soon as I get pictures.
AdamWeston	but we do have a lot of issues with sites requiring javascript to work at all
AdamWeston	thats a newer problem in the same category
coldhost	AdamWeston: i am trying what u are saying..
AdamWeston	coldhost, does your layout work without that long text?
azazul	it doesnt
azazul	the menu is breaking it
AdamWeston	yeah they're alrready floated properly
azazul	because he has   height: 100% + padding  on the link
AdamWeston	yep
AdamWeston	you can set the #d height to 38 or more nad that will fix it
AdamWeston	and
AdamWeston	that might not be the best way though
azazul	maybe im missing something , but 100% + padding is ALWAY higher then container , AdamWeston
azazul	ok , not always , but in thiscase
coldhost	AdamWeston: overflow: hidden; did the trick!!
coldhost	AdamWeston: thanks a lot man!!
coldhost	azazul: same for you
coldhost	you are my heroes
azazul	<coldhost>AdamWeston: overflow: hidden; did the trick!!
azazul	like curing broken finger  by hacking of the arm
AdamWeston	yeah that wasnt my suggestion
AdamWeston	glad you like it though lol
AdamWeston	azazul: I didn't see any 100% padding
coldhost	whew...:) i defenetly need to study more css
AdamWeston	but the UL had a hight slightly more than it's wrapper div, and being flaoted, it was sticking out the bottom
azazul	on #d li a{}
AdamWeston	oh right
enerel	why class print is printing only 1st page?
azazul	enerel: 42
enerel	42?
AdamWeston	as long as the wrapper for the menu were higher it would work, but it would be better to flaot it so it can grow to hold the ul
azazul	yes , thats the answer
enerel	what do you mean
enerel	okushi hi nigga
enerel	anyone please see this http://www.webdevout.net/test?02x
enerel	why only 1st page is printing
azazul	@http://www.webdevout.net/test?02x&raw
_ZofBot4	(webdevou...x&raw) HTML: 1 Errors (see: http://xrl.us/bhm8oq ) CSS: Valid ( http://xrl.us/bhm8os ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url (MIME: text/html;charset=UTF-8 )
enerel	ok sorry see now http://www.webdevout.net/test?02y
azazul	still makes no sense
enerel	what do you mean
enerel	your posts are also no sense
enerel	anyone else please help
oksushi	enerel: validate your markup, do not use presentational attributes
enerel	it is validated now
enerel	http://www.webdevout.net/test?02y
enerel	guys it is so simple why dont understand
SpiLoT	[04:00] <enerel> okushi hi nigga
SpiLoT	i lol'd.
SpiLoT	now i feel better sharing it.
oksushi	I was trying to ignore it
enerel	see now http://www.webdevout.net/test?02B
enerel	the style sheet is in CSS tab
azazul	especially i like this part :  body {visibility:hidden;background:#ffffff;}
azazul	]schools @ enerel
_ZofBot4	enerel, Explore the intricacies of HTML and CSS here: http://wsc.opera.com/ , www.htmlhelp.com/ , http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ , www.brainjar.com/ , www.htmldog.com/ , http://css.maxdesign.com.au/
enerel	if there are other thing than print class it will hide itt and it does
enerel	i know css i am expert
enerel	i just dont know why it only prints 1st page
azazul	.. i think im gonna cry
enerel	thats it
oksushi	enerel: you are not an expert
enerel	whats wrong with that body hidden
enerel	and you cant answer
enerel	great
SpiLoT	if no one wants to do it, i'll do.
SpiLoT	enerel: you aren't an expert, actually, no one said it.
SpiLoT	you suck.
SpiLoT	beside, you know absolute nothing on CSS
SpiLoT	adn you are placing stupid random values
SpiLoT	please, rather than wasting your and our time, go take some lessons
SpiLoT	causwe that shit is an easy shit
enerel	f u
SpiLoT	you too honey
MIRV-	omg
enerel	flower ass faggots
SpiLoT	nice

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